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What do you think is the most over-dipped or cleaned series out there?

For my area of collecting focus, Standing Liberty Quarters, I find that it's rather difficult to find nice XF examples, let alone the F to VF, that have the nice original grey surfaces that I like. Of course, MS examples are usually blasty white, or have just peripheral or slight toning, since they rarely were stored in bags for long periods, but there are so many XF and below that looked dipped out or cleaned that it's a difficult task to find nice looking examples. And the poor F to VF that are white, those are all over.

I'm sure many people would say that the Morgan series would be the 'winner,' if you could call it that, but I'm just wondering what others out there think.
David

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  • Oh I think Morgans top the list, then Peace Dollars.
    Next Standing Halves, then Franklin Halves, then we get to the Standing Quarters, and such on down.
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    morgans are by far the most overdipped coins, it's no contest really. wlh's would be 2d.

    however, i would say bust dollars are the most frequently cleaned, possibly challenged by bust halves.

    K S
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Barber quarters and half dollars.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seated dollars. Good luck finding a coin with original surfaces.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • So many Bust Halves look dipped or even harshly cleaned, I've yet to find an XF or AU example I like for my type set. I may just shell out the bucks and go for a slabbed MS-63 (undipped, or at least appering to be undipped)!!!
  • By far it has to be State Quarters image
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    Steve

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  • Morgans, for sure. I would think that any series that tends toward crusty looking, rather than light and even toning over time would probably be overdipped as well. Mercury dimes often show a crackle pattern when they are left to tone for long periods, so are probably dipped a bit more often than others. I've also seen some pretty hideous Barber coinage and classic commems that looked like they were one more dip away from disintegration, so I would place them near the top of the list as well.
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  • I'd say Morgan Dollars just because of the large numbers that exist, and the large number of non-collectors who may have handled them over the years and didn't know any better.

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  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There has to be an honorable mention for classic commemoratives. These have been messed with in enormous numbers; for some issues the proportion of messed up coins to OK ones has to be 3:1 or worse.
    mirabela
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    proof franklins and lessor so mintstate franklins
  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    I agree on the bust halves.
  • It isn't even arguable that MOrgans are the most higly dipped/cleaned series out there. Every collector, no matter what they collect has atleast 3 morgans if not more. There is a very high chance that atleast one of thoes morgans have been cleaned or dipped whether the collector knows it or not.


    jim
  • Morgans!

    Katrina
  • TheLiberatorTheLiberator Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭
    Cook Island Pee-Pee dollars! hahahahaha!
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For % of the total known, I'd say bust halves. Nearly all are cleaned.
    And in many cases, harshly so. Not so for Morgans where a large % is still quite attractive with decent luster.

    roadrunner
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    If you're talking absolute numbers, I would go with morgans. But if you're talking percentage of coins available (like roadrunner said), I would go with bust halves. It's a shame what people have done to those beautiful coins! So when you find an original looking half, it's extra special....
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  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
    Trust me its Peace $ in mint state condition. Almost every single one you see is dipped out blast white. Finding a toned 1928 or 1934-S in MS is next to impossible. Any toning is dipped right off those coins to get them into a better grade slab.

    Michael
  • I agree on the Morgans, but have you tried to find an original Barber Half?

    mojo
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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In mint state probably the Morgan dollars. It also seems the Walking Liberty halves have gone through a cleaning/dipping blitzkreig. Bust coins are probably the worst in the circulated grades, followed by the seated series, and Barber coinage is a virtual wasteland from cleaning in grades VF or better.

    Tyler

  • Without a doubt......Morgan Dollars.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Morgan Bullion.

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  • Classic silver commems (1893-1954) have been dipped and re-dipped in many cases (dippedy-de-doo-dah).
  • Bust halves are hard to find with original surfaces--so many have been cleaned and dipped. But given the age of these grand old ladies and the propensity for cleaning in years past its hard to find original examples. I have about half of my date set in what I consider to be unsatisfactory condition--great details but cleaned or dipped, however, given their history I'm still fond of each of them.
    Curmudgeon in waiting!
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bust halves, followed closely by Barber halves....

    Dave
    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.

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