Clad Roosevelt Finest Possible Set Rating: 68.96
Dan50
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WOW! What a difference a year makes. The Roosevelt Clad Registry Finest Possible Set Rating: 68.96. No doubt soon to be 69.00 and climbing. Will it make 69 before the 2004's are added? I for one think it will, as it's had the booster rockets firing all year, and there is still 4 months to go. your thoughts?? 
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of the moderns, clad or not. There are also more of these that are common than the other
denominations.
This set is ideal for someone who wants to assemble a high grade set either raw or slabbed.
It is challenging enough to keep ones interest and most can be acquired cheaply.
The Roosie clads are O'plenty, but the FB designation is making it VERY diffcult to obtain a high grade set. As Cladking has stated numerous times, mint sets have been traded from dealer to dealer, because nobody wanted them and most sets were cut open for the other denoms.
I see this set reaching 69.00 for a set rating, but not this year. The 2004-P/D have both been made in MS68FB and I don't do math, so I couldn't tell you what it will be with the addition of these 2 coins. It has been 1.5 years since the designation and still there are 4 clads w/o FB, let alone something like 17-18 w/o the lofty grade of MS67FB or higher.
My $$$ is still on the dime 1970, as I see this coin never being made in FB, and if it is, I will PAY TO SEE IT! I look at other denominations such as the Lincoln, the Statehood Quarters and the Sac $ and see these in MS69, and wonder why hasn't the Roosies seen these grades. As Date-n-type stated in a previous thread "Who Cares".
To date there is a total of 9 MS69FB's...thats it. Onlyroosies tried to sell his 3 different dates and nobody bid strong. I for one would love to have those 3 dimes, but don't have the funds. $2,000 per coin is a great amount of $$$ for a Roosie, but they are ligit condition census rarities, but if you want to be at the top, these are an absolute must have for your set.
IMHO from 1999-date should have MS69FB's for the pop-tops and if collectors collected them as they do the Statehoods, you would see these grades. Maybe we should get Donn Murphy interested in dimes, then we would see some higher grades!
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
But not this year!
Sorry, Paul
Later, Paul.
of the year as long as the 04's are not calculated in. If it hits 69.00 I'll get you an 04P & D in 68FB. If
it doesn't hit it you owe Paul the 04P & D in 68FB. How does that sound.
I do believe 04 will produce several 69FB's. As far
as the other 3 dates in 69FB I don't see a rise in pops there. At 2K a pop for any one of those dates
is a bargain today. They were the crown jewels of my set. And by the way I own 5 of the 9 slabbed
in 69FB. I own 3 of the 4 2001-D's graded MS69FB. There just so sweat to hold.
Nick
I will take that bet that you are offering, just as long as the GPA doesn't include the 2004-P/D, but I will say that I might be my own culprit, because I just bought a gem 1976-D NGC MS67FT pop (1/0) and if that crosses over to PCGS MS67FB then that will be a full 2 grades better then the current top-pop for that year. I believe that Rick has the 1976-D MS65FB (1/0), but we will see.
68.96 is a nice GPA. I see this going alot higher then this....someday!
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
ps:: Nick don't hold those 69's to tight, I'm going to be needing those in the near future.
I plan on sending that 76-D in for crossover A.S.A.P., and if thats what sends it over the top, then more power to it.
I'm sure Wondercoin will sell those 04's real cheap if I need them!
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
I don't know Dan, Paul told me he wants them too. I'll tell you what. I'll trade all 3 for 1 pop 1/0
silver MS68FB. Or the first $6K gets them......
you be so sneaky....
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
<< <i>OUCH!!! I just checked out the turnaround time on the moderns. 70 days, with weekends, holidays, and show dates taken out that comes out to 4 months or more.
Dan50, I have 30 Roosies at the graders right now and they are due anytime. They are being sealed so it could be this week, so I won't have to worry so much about 70 days.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
I hope you get to use all those Roosie's in your Registry set, and may all of them be 67-68FB's
Nick, you oughta' send those 69's in for regrade as a group and get sequential serial numbers. For a fistful of dollars, this would add more mystique and possibly even a bit o' extra value for "coolness".
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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<< <i>Paul, that 76-D must be something! To get a FT at NGSea on a date that is normally FLAT boggles my mind. >>
When I bought the 76-D NGC MS67FT from Nick, I was wondering as to why Nick didn't send it in to PCGS for a crossover as I planned on doing when I received it. I now know why, and really those words sum it up.
This is the first NGC coin that I have bought in a very long time and I plan on selling it here if anyone is interested, so here it goes:
Please send me a PM if interested.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
grade. NGC has always been tougher on the bands then PCGS. When I received the coin I knew
PC wouldn't cross it so I put it right back up on eBay with a $.99 start and let it go for what ever.
I never touted the coin as anything other then what it says on the label.
All my auctions come with a full return privilege. I gladly accept returns. Just say the word Paul.....
and it shall be done. All I ask is that if you are going to bring the matter to the boards please state
all the facts... Like, You won the coin as high bidder on one of my eBay auctions.
Paul, If you feel I have done anything inappropriate in regards to our transaction just say so and
I will double your money back and you can keep the coin.
Nick
The doctor is now OUT:
are usually a half to one full point below PCGS grades. In the case with the 76D I felt the coin wouldn't
even cross at 66FB.
I had to press a little with my reply because when I read Paul's post I thought to myself,,, Why did I sell
him an inferior coin and stick him like that. Then I realized he won the coin on eBay. I wanted to stress
that he should have stated that and just sent the coin back to me. I figured that if I first interpreted his post
that I stuck him with the coin others would too. I also wanted to know if he felt that way since he didn't
say in his post that he bought the coin off eBay. I just wanted some clarification from Paul......
Besides, Pauls my Roosie Buddy, If you can't say whats on your mind with your buddy, Who can ya.....
Nick
Personally, Nick Cascio is one of the finest persons on these boards and an up-standing coin dealer and I would reccomend purchasing a coin from him and I will continue to purchase from him in the future, and not only Roosies. Right now, he has several high grade Pr & MS coins for sale on eBay and I was just looking at them to see what was up for auction. Ebay allows you to have 30 sellers on your favorite sellers list and he has been on that list for a long time...Period!
As far as the coin/dime in question in my estimates it is an MS67FT by NGC grading standards and that is what Nick stated in his lot. I like PCGS and have read that NGC could be alittle more harder on Roosies for grading the FT/FB's. This coin does not have FB's, but does have the FT. My only thought was why was he selling it, but my question has been that why does Nick still by Roosies, if he is still selling, but Nick can do what ever he wants and its not my place to question him and I for one am also very sorry for the above comment if taken the wrong way.
I bought the coin on ebay and seen the several pictures that were posted of this coin. Soon after I received this coin, I tried to buy a 1970 NGC MS66FT and was outbid. I have decided to sell the coin in some way (I offered it here, but will sell it on ebay) and will not opt on the generous offer that Nick presented me with, only because I just don't want to.
Dan50 and Onlyroosies are GREAT Roosie collectors and I will always have the highest regards for both of them.
Back to the original post which is Roosies at 68.96. Is our bet on?
Later coin dudes!
Paul.
Later, Paul.
Paul - Now those are "fighting words" to Nick - how dare you suggest he is a "coin dealer".
Wondercoin
if you win you can send me the extra set at no charge
Tim
was a misunderstanding on my part. We did what Roosies guys do.... We talked Roosies for about
an hour. One more thing....... I'm a collector, not a dealer......
Now back to the thread... Dan, I believe you excepted my bet before Pauls. But Paul is my beneficiary
and will receive the 04 P&D after I win the bet.....
Nick...
Tim, go back to sleep, the way you are going you will be #1 and have retired your set before this thing ends.
I will say this...I'm very excited about the future of the Clad/Silver Roosies as this is one of the HOTTEST coins out there! I really would like to see PCGS combine both of these sets and have the 1946-date set up and running! I've posted several question regarding this matter...well 2x's...and I don't seem to get a response back at all.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
Many years ago, I believe Rick M. had agreed to create the 1932-1998 "global" Wash quarter set at the request of several Wash quarter collectors. With everything going on, it just didn't get done at that time. I still like the idea.
Wondercoin
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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<< <i>There is precedent for a "global" set as well: the IKE set is a mix of siver coins and clads. >>
There really isn't much difference between the silver and clad dimes and quarters. The ties between
them are far more numerous than the differences and the differences are mostly superficial. These
coins were struck and used the same way in commerce right through the mid 1960's. There was no
great rush by the general population to distinguish between them. Many people didn't even notice
the change. There are '64 SMS coins and there's even a '64 clad quarter. There are 1965 silver dimes
and quarters as well as 90% silver halfs. There are probably some 1965 proof issues. Quarter reverses
were used stright through on a few coins and the '65 reverse was used on some '64 issues.
The biggest difference between these coins is the behavior of collectors in regards to them. Collectors
set aside vast quantities of the older coins for future collectors while the clads were mostly ignored
after 1965.
Reliefs of the early clads was just as high as the earlier issues and the spending power of the 1965
coins was very little different than the 1964 or even the 1958 issues. It wasn't until the early '70's
that inflation got really going good and the late '70's before it had accumulated significant damage to
the value of the coins. In fact, reliefs weren't dramatically affected on the quarter till very near the end
of its run in 1996.
The early clads were horribly made in the beginning which made them seem a lot different than the
silver issues but the quality improved by 1970 and the horribly made coins are sufficiently worn now
that it's hardly noticeable.
The real changes in these coins occured over many years since 1932 and 1946. There is no nice neat
dividing line in two series which sport the exact same design right from the beginning.
The best I can see is that a 1976-D MS67FB was made since this post was started, so who has it?
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
There is one in 6FB if anybody is interested?
The 2004P 68FB is looking to be a little tough to get.
Nick
Now the 82 in 67FB is going to look real good filling a slot in someones set, what with it's 3 point weighted value.
I LOVE those grades! I love the coins too but the grades are the REAL draw. I can't (O.K. won't) do 6k. But I'll be more than happy to start the bidding at 4k. That is also my high bid but at least I'm willing to lay my balls on the table. Anybody else want these coins? Nick, I maybe your only offer.
Ron
<< <i>" Nick don't hold those 69's to tight, I'm going to be needing those in the near future."
I don't know Dan, Paul told me he wants them too. I'll tell you what. I'll trade all 3 for 1 pop 1/0
silver MS68FB. Or the first $6K gets them......
and we'll trade straight across.....
that when a series heats up its the top pops and low pops that are the most sought after
coins. Guess what... Those 3 are not the only MS69FB clad Roosie dimes I own.....
The bulk of my clad set was sold to a dealer. I allowed him to cherry pick all the coins he
wanted at a stiff premium. None of the dimes he picked out ever showed up in registry sets.
My 82P 66FB was listed as not for sale. IMO it was a 67FB and I wasn't finished with it. He
talked me out of it for a substantial premium. Since the current MS67FB has yet to show
up in a registry set or anywhere for sale my guess is he upgraded mine and its sitting
with all the others somewhere.
Nick
It will be interesting to see where the 49-P ends up. It is at $6k right now and still has plenty of time.
Good luck.
Butch
Yes, Plenty of time left, But I don't think there's much more
room to the up side.
I just found out that the 1982P MS67FB was not my 1982P
MS66FB that got upgraded. Anyone know the wherebouts
of this coin.
Nick
<< <i>Paul, The 82P in 67FB was also recently made. >>
Nick, I keep up with the pops of the clads, and this coin was made some time ago, and given the speed at which PCGS up-dates their registry points and sets, I will say that this DID effect the overall GPA and if they are truely slow, then the 1976-D MS67FB is sure to effect the GPA in the up and coming weeks if it hasn't already. Anyone care to double check the average?
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
<< <i>Paul said his money was on the 1970 as being the only one to never make FB. Paul don't place any money on it just yet, if I were you I'd wait a couple months before I followed up on that statement. No, it's not going to be my submission. >>
I know a 1970 MS66FT NGC recently sold on eBay a few weeks back, and it sold for a premium (Thanks to me driving up the price, trying to outbid the new owner!
Dan50, after I win this bet
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
did to or they were already updated.