Why do coin sellers on E-bay....
marz
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as a general rule charge way more to ship coins than other collectible sellers?
I collect baseball cards. real ones- this kind of stuff.
http://www.psacard.com/new_set_registry/display_rsets.chtml?setid=719&set_name=1887 Kimball Champions (N184)
you win a $300 baseball card and it costs $2.25 to get it. You win a $300 prtected in a holder and far more durrable coin and you pay $5.00 !
What is the deal with this? And it is consistant I might add. I have purchased maybe 5000 cards and 500 coins to have a good comparison!
I collect baseball cards. real ones- this kind of stuff.
http://www.psacard.com/new_set_registry/display_rsets.chtml?setid=719&set_name=1887 Kimball Champions (N184)
you win a $300 baseball card and it costs $2.25 to get it. You win a $300 prtected in a holder and far more durrable coin and you pay $5.00 !
What is the deal with this? And it is consistant I might add. I have purchased maybe 5000 cards and 500 coins to have a good comparison!
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Russ, NCNE
<< <i>the availability of shipping supplies (free). >>
Hate to break it to you, but for items weighing less than 13 ounces, they are not "free". Lets say you have a slabbed Morgan Dollar. If you sent it in a priority box with no other services, the cost would be $3.85. If you buy your own boxes (mine in the size of the small priority boxes cost 48¢) and mail first class, your cost is $1.67. You are paying $2.18 for that box. As far as delivery times go, I have seen no difference where boxes are concerned.
Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>500 coin transactions and he doesn't know the shipping cost with insurance for First class and Priority mail? Come on......
Cameron Kiefer >>
He's just a cardboard collector over here to stir up trouble in coinland.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>He's just a cardboard collector over here to stir up trouble in coinland. >>
I don't want to rag on anyones collecting specialty Russ, but I agree about the stirring up of trouble. What a waste of time.
Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>Huh? The boxes are indeed free. No matter how you look at it. I am not going to keep two different kinds of boxes around. It's Priority boxes only for me. You are right the minimum charge is $3.85, so what? Sometimes people amaze me.... I guess this isn't an issue for me because I don't sell $5.00 coins on eBay. This is why my upcoming auctions will probably all be "shipping included" auctions. I will either have enough confidence in the coin or establish a high enough starting bid. >>
No they are not free, I just explained to you why. And I use my own boxes even for very expensive coins.
USPS Priority box shipping (not over one pound) = $3.85
Add Insurance ($300) = $5.20
Add Signature Confirmation = $1.80
Total = $10.85
As far as I am concerend that is a bargain.
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<< <i>Huh? The boxes are indeed free. No matter how you look at it. I am not going to keep two different kinds of boxes around. It's Priority boxes only for me. You are right the minimum charge is $3.85, so what? Sometimes people amaze me.... I guess this isn't an issue for me because I don't sell $5.00 coins on eBay. This is why my upcoming auctions will probably all be "shipping included" auctions. I will either have enough confidence in the coin or establish a high enough starting bid. >>
No they are not free, I just explained to you why. And I use my own boxes even for very expensive coins. >>
The box is free, the shipping is $3.85. The box is free, the shipping is $3.85. The box is free, the shipping is $3.85. The box is free, the shipping is $3.85.
Box - .48
Postage - 1.19
Insurance - 4.20
e Delivery Confirmation .13
Total $6.00 (actual costs)
Now please explain, since we are using a coin valued at $300, how those priority boxes are "free".
(And by the way, you are also paying for all the shady sellers who take priority boxes and turn them inside out to ship first class and media mail)
<< <i>Are you saying that $5 to ship a $300 coin is unreasonable? >>
Yes! I am! I never charge that for $300 cards! which have a much higher risk of damage!
<< <i>That's no bargain. For me, I would charge $7 for a $300 coin.
Box - .48
Postage - 1.19
Insurance - 4.20
e Delivery Confirmation .13
Total $6.00 (actual costs)
Now please explain, since we are using a coin valued at $300, how those priority boxes are "free".
(And by the way, you are also paying for all the shady sellers who take priority boxes and turn them inside out to ship first class and media mail) >>
I am not going to argue about this. I stated my policy and and that is end of it.
<< <i>Some of them are effectively trying to get the seller to pay their listing fees by inflating the shipping cost. In other cases the high shipping cost is meant to discourage returns...the buyer feeling it is not worth losing postage/insurance both ways. Sellers with high shipping fees are suspect. I avoid them. >>
That violates both E-bay rules and postal laws!
<< <i>The box is free, the shipping is $3.85. The box is free, the shipping is $3.85. The box is free, the shipping is $3.85. The box is free, the shipping is $3.85. >>
Apparently, you just don't get it. I can send the same item for a net cost of $1.67. You are paying $2.18 for that box, whether you want to admit to it or not.
<< <i>That card can't have been insured. Insurance for $300 alone costs more than the $2.25... >>
what card???
<< <i>what card??? >>
Go back to the card forum. What card? The $300 card you said you got in the mail! Do you remember typing this?:
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you win a $300 baseball card and it costs $2.25 to get it. You win a $300 prtected in a holder and far more durrable coin and you pay $5.00 !
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Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>I tick some buyers off, but on my auctions I ship only USPS Priority mail with insurance and delivery confirmation, period. On a cheap coin I do this $5 (a loss), on a regular coin I do this for $10 (about break even) and on a real nice coin I don't charge anything for shipping. My auctions say clearly up front exactly what the charge is but I still get buyers trying to haggle me down after the sale. I ship only Priorty because I like the speed of delivery, the sturdiness of the boxes, the availability of shipping supplies (free). Just go to usps.com and theven send you the boxes, tapes, albels etc right to your door for no charge. I have yet to have a problem with delivery or damage. It just kills me when someone pays me $300 for a coin then gripes about a small but fair shipping charge. This is the same type of buyer who wants you to ship it for $1.25 and complains when it comes in damaged. >>
show me a coin damaged in shipping??? Also, I am one of the guys you hate I guess but to be "fair" (subjective),I write that i take full responsibility and never complain if the thing does not show up.
<< <i>I am not going to argue about this. I stated my policy and and that is end of it. >>
You can't argue, because you are simply wrong. Your policy? I could care less. If I come across an item for under $50 where the seller insists on using priority mail, I hit the back button.
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<< <i>the availability of shipping supplies (free). >>
Hate to break it to you, but for items weighing less than 13 ounces, they are not "free". Lets say you have a slabbed Morgan Dollar. If you sent it in a priority box with no other services, the cost would be $3.85. If you buy your own boxes (mine in the size of the small priority boxes cost 48¢) and mail first class, your cost is $1.67. You are paying $2.18 for that box. As far as delivery times go, I have seen no difference where boxes are concerned. >>
Hate to break this to you but this is an exception ,not a rule. priority mail and postal(free) boxes work fine. No need for vitriolic missives.
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<< <i>Are you saying that $5 to ship a $300 coin is unreasonable? >>
Yes! I am! I never charge that for $300 cards! which have a much higher risk of damage! >>
Insurance for that amount costs $4.20. My boxes cost 48¢. So you would have me take a net loss on shipping. You're unreasonable, and I would hate for someone to bid on one of my items that had your attitude on it.
<< <i>USPS insurance on a $300 item is $4.20! >>
OK, and it is a rip off! The postal service has the "right" to dispute the value of any item and will not for certain pay it! So why both with insurance on a cheap item. i have my horro story but will post it later for you to understand my point here.
Usually,you are insuring money right? But they can and have disputed the value and have NOT paid the insured amount in many cases. i know,my borther works for the Postal service.
<< <i>as a general rule charge way more to ship coins than other collectible sellers?
I collect baseball cards. real ones- this kind of stuff.
http://www.psacard.com/new_set_registry/display_rsets.chtml?setid=719&set_name=1887 Kimball Champions (N184)
you win a $300 baseball card and it costs $2.25 to get it. You win a $300 prtected in a holder and far more durrable coin and you pay $5.00 !
What is the deal with this? And it is consistant I might add. I have purchased maybe 5000 cards and 500 coins to have a good comparison!
Maybe you should stay focused on cards
Tom
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
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<< <i>Huh? The boxes are indeed free. No matter how you look at it. I am not going to keep two different kinds of boxes around. It's Priority boxes only for me. You are right the minimum charge is $3.85, so what? Sometimes people amaze me.... I guess this isn't an issue for me because I don't sell $5.00 coins on eBay. This is why my upcoming auctions will probably all be "shipping included" auctions. I will either have enough confidence in the coin or establish a high enough starting bid. >>
No they are not free, I just explained to you why. And I use my own boxes even for very expensive coins. >>
NO,THEY ARE FREE AND YOU CAN EVEN HAVE THEM DELIVERED TO YOUR HOUSE ON LINE!
I have 12,000 feedbacks and have sold maybe $12 million dollars in product on and off ebay over 20 years, not including sending stuff out from my store I owned for 14 years.Your off on your info here friend unless in your state there is some significant difference in how business works.
David
<< <i>i know,my borther works for the Postal service. >>
-This one plays like 'my wife's a lawyer'. Tired.
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<< <i>the availability of shipping supplies (free). >>
Hate to break it to you, but for items weighing less than 13 ounces, they are not "free". Lets say you have a slabbed Morgan Dollar. If you sent it in a priority box with no other services, the cost would be $3.85. If you buy your own boxes (mine in the size of the small priority boxes cost 48¢) and mail first class, your cost is $1.67. You are paying $2.18 for that box. As far as delivery times go, I have seen no difference where boxes are concerned. >>
Hate to break this to you but this is an exception ,not a rule. priority mail and postal(free) boxes work fine. No need for vitriolic missives. >>
You are a piece of work. First you complain about a reasonable shipping charge, then when I take on someone who high on shipping because they are using unnecessary priority mail, you come to their defense. And I thought I had seen it all.
So, if you bought a $300 item and it was sent priority mail insured, the postage would be $8.05. But you think $5 is unreasonable.
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<< <i>I am not going to argue about this. I stated my policy and and that is end of it. >>
You can't argue, because you are simply wrong. Your policy? I could care less. If I come across an item for under $50 where the seller insists on using priority mail, I hit the back button. >>
you act as if is about you? nobidy cares here about YOUR specific offerings. I made a general inquiry. It was not a direct knock on anyone here.
BTW...I charge $2.50 for first coin +.50 on each additional. Insurance optional.
I disagree with your basis for this tread that coin dealers consistanly overcharge shipping
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<< <i>what card??? >>
Go back to the card forum. What card? The $300 card you said you got in the mail! Do you remember typing this?:
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you win a $300 baseball card and it costs $2.25 to get it. You win a $300 prtected in a holder and far more durrable coin and you pay $5.00 !
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Cameron Kiefer >>
Gee,thanks for the sarcasm. I thought he was referring to something specific. take it easy.
<< <i>Add shipping charges toward what you are willing to bid for the item as a whole...and EITHER buy it OR don't. (And quit whinning!)
BTW...I charge $2.50 for first coin +.50 on each additional. Insurance optional.
I disagree with your basis for this tread that coin dealers consistanly overcharge shipping >>
Don't get excited. You're replying to an unknown entity who has no profile and makes claims to doing 12 mil in "product" on ebay, probably at a markup which has buried a lot of people and is now whining about other peoples shipping costs.
Give me a break.
Tom
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
Just wait til it arrives scuffed and scratched by the USPS sorting machine when it jammed in the machine, folded when they stuffed it in
the mailbag, Splindled when they jam all the stuff it into your mailbox.
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<< <i>what card??? >>
Go back to the card forum. What card? The $300 card you said you got in the mail! Do you remember typing this?:
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you win a $300 baseball card and it costs $2.25 to get it. You win a $300 prtected in a holder and far more durrable coin and you pay $5.00 !
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I wrore you a note yesterday via e-mail inquiring about a group of sample slabbed coins! You did not respond but sem to have time to attempt to flame me here. I'll pass nowe on the offer to buy some of your coins. Your rude without reason.
<< <i>I have 12,000 feedbacks and have sold maybe $12 million dollars in product on and off ebay over 20 years, not including sending stuff out from my store I owned for 14 years.Your off on your info here friend unless in your state there is some significant difference in how business works. >>
Ebay has been around for 20 years?
I buy padded envelopes for $0.17 each, plus $0.83 for postage to ship a slab.
I charge $4.50 to ship a slab (plus insurance) and still don't make any money on it (eBay and PayPal do)
I guess I need to charge more.
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<< <i>Don't get excited. You're replying to an unknown entity who has no profile and makes claims to doing 12 mil in "product" on ebay, probably at a markup which has buried a lot of people and is now whining about other peoples shipping costs. >>
Damn good point!
Maybe you should stay focused on cards
maybe you should commit an indignity upon yourself!
Tom >>
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<< <i>I have 12,000 feedbacks and have sold maybe $12 million dollars in product on and off ebay over 20 years, not including sending stuff out from my store I owned for 14 years.Your off on your info here friend unless in your state there is some significant difference in how business works. >>
Ebay has been around for 20 years?
Yes and the un named entity claims 12 mil in "product" sold as well
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
Yes, the boxes are free from the post office.
But you MUST spend $3.85 in postage to use them.
If you buy a box for $0.48 and spend $1.19 in postage, the total cost is $1.67 for a difference of $2.18
So in order to use the "free" box, you must "spend" an extra $2.18
And the delivery time is the same in most cases.
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<< <i>Maybe you should stay focused on cards
maybe you should commit an indignity upon yourself!
I was only replying to an idiot .
Tom
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
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<< <i>the availability of shipping supplies (free). >>
you misunderstand me and the whole thought was not meant as a flame fest. Save that for Haggar if you know him. it will be much easier for you. I will explain a postal tale to you later.
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<< <i>i know,my borther works for the Postal service. >>
-This one plays like 'my wife's a lawyer'. Tired. >>
brilliantly inane.
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<< <i>I have 12,000 feedbacks and have sold maybe $12 million dollars in product on and off ebay over 20 years, not including sending stuff out from my store I owned for 14 years.Your off on your info here friend unless in your state there is some significant difference in how business works. >>
Ebay has been around for 20 years?
learn to comprehend- "and off e-bay over 20 years" "off" is the magic word for you.