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Should Major take a hike???? A few observations on these boards!

I'm a newbie, albeit an 'ol boy. After lurking for a few months, I decided to sign-up and participate a few weeks ago. It's already improved my lousy typing, if nothing else.

As I've said, I believe these boards are for idling away a bit of time, having fun and learning a bit in the process.

IMO, some take it waaaaaaaay too seriously.

I believe there is an inner circle of active posters, and if you're not "in", you're "out". To me, that seems unfair and inappropriate. Who owns the airwaves or the internet? We all do!

I've been bashed to beejusus, and will confess to bashing back a bit too (it's human nature).

I've been "commanded" to post pix of coins I mentioned, but have neither the equipment nor the expertise to do so.

I've been accused of being a self-professed expert. Well, having amassed a vast numismatic library and a large collection over nearly a half century of active collecting, attended hunderds local and national shows, and being on a first name basis with many major dealers ought to count for something.

I've been asked "who are you", challenged to prove my credentials, and otherwise insulted.

I've been chastised for not posting a profile. When asked why, I explained "for the same reason that I don't have Coin World mailed to my home address." I also suspect that exposing an email adddress for PMs exposes you to spam--God knows I get enough of that alredy.

I've been called a liar (untrue) and a POS (like grading, that's subjective).

I've started a few threads that have drawn many comments, and have expressed my opinion on others' posts. I've tried to contribute and, yes, stir it up a bit, but keep getting bashed and harassed.

What happened to civility and mutual respect?? I see little of it here!

I probably should just paraphrase Dick Nixon statement in a press conference after he lost the California gubernatorial election, say that "you won't have Major to kick around anymore" and just give up posting on these boards.

Whadda' you think?? I'll go with the flow and follow the majority concensus. Should the Major retire form active service on these boards?
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  • Hey, stay around. What people type isn't always what they would mean if said in person. You can't insert emotion into a typed message1
    As far as PM's go, your email address isn't used. This forum site sends them back and forth!

    Ken
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've tried to contribute and, yes, stir it up a bit, but keep getting bashed and harassed. >>

    I really don't know your story here on the forum but if you try to stir things up you'll get the same in return I suspect. Just relax and be nice to others and everything will be fine and in a couple of months you'll be one of the old timers here. mike image
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    I don't think anyone really cares that much one way or another. If you want to stay, then stay. If you want to go, then go. I really don't think most people here are worrying about it... not even a little bit.

    This type of whiny, self-serving, hey-look-at-me post is kind of pathetic and a waste of space.

    Personally, I've always thought you were a troll.



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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭✭✭
    stick around...stir it up, if you're so inclined...but most importantly...

    don't take yourself or anyone else for that matter, too seriously... image

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • sTONERsTONER Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭
    hey MAJOR, have yourself a WAWA 24 oz coffee and enjoy these good people and learn something new, after a while you,ll blend in ,,STEVEimage
    toner loner
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    I hate to admit it, but I like the trolls (though they piss me off on occasion).

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!


  • << <i>
    As far as PM's go, your email address isn't used. This forum site sends them back and forth!

    Ken >>




    Don't they just pass-on the spams?

    It's early in the balloting, so far I call it 4 (stay) to 1 (go)!
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    In the 900+ PM's I've recieved, I've not had one single piece of spam come my way.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • ddbirdddbird Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭
    No PM's dont have anything to do with email....its so board members can talk privatly to you...There is a distinct circle of members, but after awhile you should work yourself in. I have yet to get into the "circle" takes a couple of years for the old guys to trust you.

    >>WAWA 24 oz coffee and enjoy these >>

    WAWA is the greatest establishment ever!!!
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stick around...

    You are what you are...

    Just dont get upset when someone disagrees with you.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Stick around. But if you try to stir things up you'll get it back. There are some world class stirrers around here that you'd better be prepared to deal with.
    coinimaging.com/my photography articles Check out the new macro lens testing section
  • Aw hell,hang around and stir it up !
    i need the company !
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Oh yeah, Whatever you think you know about coins there are people around here that know more, be humble.
    coinimaging.com/my photography articles Check out the new macro lens testing section
  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    If you are losing sleep over this stuff, retire. If, on the other hand, you have the cods to speak your mind and take a little flak for having opinions, stick around. I guess it depends on what kind a man you are. image

    If that doesn't convince you to hang around, I don't know what would.


    When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.

    Thomas Paine
  • You need to realize coins are more than a hobby for many, it's how some make a living. In one instance you stated that most dealers are coin doctors. That could be very annoying to the good honest dealers who we are lucky enough to have here. To make a generalization of an enitire business no matter how much of an expert you are (or think you are) you should expect to take some heat.
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  • << <i>If you are losing sleep over this stuff, retire. If, on the other hand, you have the cods to speak your mind and take a little flak for having opinions, stick around. I guess it depends on what kind a man you are. image

    If that doesn't convince you to hang around, I don't know what would. >>



  • << <i>If you are losing sleep over this stuff, retire. If, on the other hand, you have the cods to speak your mind and take a little flak for having opinions, stick around. I guess it depends on what kind a man you are. image

    If that doesn't convince you to hang around, I don't know what would. >>

  • >>>Should the Major retire form active service on these boards?<<<

    Hang in there Major, and be yourself come hell or high water, and don't be intimidated by some of the old timers here.image

    I've only been here on the forum for a little more than a year, and have found that there are some very knowledgeable folks on the coin forum that you can gain alot of knowledge whether you've been collecting for 4 years or 40 like me...... Although I don't post to often in the coin forum I usually look at it daily, and have gained alot of respect for several of the old timers and newbies that post here.....

    Now if you like to rant and rave you might want to take a look at the Open Forum occasionally, I can guarantee that you will find all the ranting and raving you want over there!image


  • << <i>If you are losing sleep over this stuff, retire. If, on the other hand, you have the cods to speak your mind and take a little flak for having opinions, stick around. I guess it depends on what kind a man you are. image

    If that doesn't convince you to hang around, I don't know what would. >>



    Wierd, i can't get the system to accept my comments. For a lousy typer, it's a real hasstle to re-do a post. I'll try again:

    What, Me worry? No way I'd lose sleep over this silliness.

    To quote the esteemed poster who called me a POS:

    Life is too short!

    Live like you were dying!!!

    BTW, I forgot to mention being accused of stealing others' icons when I merely selected from the list that is available when you sign up for the Board. Hence, the beauty I now display!
  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315
    Stick around guy, I love it when people stir up the chit.



    100proof and Louis keep up the good work

    Herb
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
    imageimageimage
  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
    Just so you know Major you have a RED X for an Icon now.

    Scott






    Toned Coins for sale @ tonedcointrader.com
  • >>BTW, I forgot to mention being accused of stealing others' icons when I merely selected from the list that is available when you sign up for the Board. Hence, the beuaty Inow display!<<<

    Yep that Red-X is a beauty!image


  • << <i>Just so you know Major you have a RED X for an Icon now.

    Scott >>



    Yeah, I figure nobody would accuse me of stealing that icon!
  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085


    << <i>I've been accused of being a self-professed expert. Well, having amassed a vast numismatic library and a large collection over nearly a half century of active collecting, attended hunderds local and national shows, and being on a first name basis with many major dealers ought to count for something. >>



    Its nice to have another ol' boy around (not many of us left)...you write well so hang around you sound like you could share your many experiences on the boards from years of collecting. I for one would like to hear more from you. image
    A thing of beauty is a joy for ever
  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
    But I believe there are others with the big RED X ! image






    Toned Coins for sale @ tonedcointrader.com


  • << <i>But I believe there are others with the big RED X ! image >>



    Picky, picky!

    Why's everbody always pickin'n me???? (Charlie Brown)
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    David Hall can't post something on the boards here that is inflammatory without getting hammered. As far as an "inner circle" of active posters goes, that's certainly true. There are some active and frequent posters. If you spend enough time here, you'll learn to value some poster's contributions more than others. Your opinion of their posts will likely be shaped by their expertise, their credentials, their real identities, the quality of their skills and content, their sense of humor, and their reasonable opinion. You'll likely also find some of the best content on the boards comes from the participating dealers. I find the boards a pretty good read.
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • I too am a newbie. I have experienced nothing but joy from the time that I have spent here on this forum. I have found a multitude of helpful and knowledgeable people that share the same interests that I do. Have experienced no bashing, or disrespectful treatment by any strectch of the imagination.

    What a Great Forum,
    Keep it up, please.
    Louis
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    Hey what are you doing with my red imageimage


  • << <i>

    << <i>Just so you know Major you have a RED X for an Icon now.

    Scott >>



    Yeah, I figure nobody would accuse me of stealing that icon! >>



    You can use one of my Walkers here for an icon if you like.image
  • NicNic Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stick around MBT.... it is part of the learning curve and the forum is what it is. You will find the right folks with time. PM's are very important. K
  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    I am proud to be part of the vast numismatic conspiracy and a board member of the obverse council on foreign relations. I was recently inducted into the trilateral commission for the bipartisan and bimetallic budget committee. We are currently investigating the Iran-Contra Clad Layer scandal.
    Major:
    Sit back and enjoy numismatics. I don't understand what the fuss is about, and in the meantime get a nice seated icon or maybe a barber, take your pick. Enjoy the hobby, stop stressing.
  • The more the merrier!! I vote stay!image

    Katrina
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are some world class stirrers around here that you'd better be prepared to deal with. >>


    SAY IT AINT SO!

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • You Rang ?
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777

    Stay if you want to stay- leave if you want to leave- I have to agree with Xpipe on this one. You're a new poster, and you come in with some inflammatory posts- additionally, you kept dropping into threads about moderns and posting unnecessary comments like "WHO CARES?" that do nothing to further the conversation. You must be aware of this- if not, you should be- but you have a certain amount of smugness that comes through your posts. Personally, I don't care, but all of these things tend to rub some people the wrong way when they have no idea who you are or if you're worth listening to. I always thought that you were trying to rub people the wrong way- if you are, I'm sure many around here would welcome that, as it adds more drama to the slower days....
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    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    mbt, stick around already.

    If you ask for an opinion, expect it all.
    If you share your opion, expect it all.

    Since there are more than likely members on both sides of the fence be careful on your replies, stepping on members toes is easy & some get their feathers ruffled easily.

    More than likely on 'interesting' topics the responces will start to wonder & go OT, some get funny, others (too) serious.

    I reread my threads & replies, try not to generalize & keep on topic.....unless it's a quick sarcastic jab! image

    HAVE FUN HERE & instead of Nixon, think of Ronnie....Mr. Teflon!
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MBT: I have found that you can participate in these boards to whatever level of activity you'd like.

    -- If you lurk without posting then you won't take the risk of getting slammed.
    -- However, most posters try to interpret the tone of other's posts (individual's perception), and will generally respond with either a collaborative and positive post of they read your tone as positive, or will perhaps get out the flame-throwers if they perceive a post to be inflamatory and taking the offensive.

    For some this is just a fun part-time hobby, for others it's how they make their living (a business), and then there are some who enjoy inflamatory posts and debates... Each person can make this forum whatever they want...

    Hope that you decide to stick around for a while -- there are some very bright people here who as a group have a tremendous collective knowledge of most (if not all) series of coins.

    These Boards are a weath of information available to you simply for the asking via the keystroke. image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"


  • << <i>Stay if you want to stay- leave if you want to leave-


    I'll put you down as a "tie", neither yes or no!



    you have a certain amount of smugness that comes through your posts. Personally, I don't care, but all of these things tend to rub some people the wrong way when they have no idea who you are or if you're worth listening to. I always thought that you were trying to rub people the wrong way- if you are, I'm sure many around here would welcome that, as it adds more drama to the slower days....
    image >>




    Yeah, I'm seen as a bit of a wise guy sometimes as I like to stir it up a little and may speak with tounge in cheek from time to time! Nobody called me a woos or a milktoast!!
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    The bottom line is that as a new poster, one can't expect to be immediately accepted into an "inner circle," such as it is or may be. Though it's just a message board and not "real life" in most ways, some aspect of real, "meat space" relationships and group dynamics still apply.

    The "new kid on the block" isn't going to be the center of attention (not unless they make an @$$ of themselves, anyway -- in which case they may be, but not in the way they'd like). Over time, if you contribute, if you post in a way that's worthy of respect and you give same to others, respect is earned. Almost every busy form or message board I've ever been on has always had charges of "elite posters" or some "inner circle" clique which eats clueless or bombastic newbies for breakfast and merely remains indifferent toward the others. And it's usually the same elsewhere as here: contribute, but don't quickly be upset if you get little attention. After a while, respect is earned and you're "in," so to speak.

    Having said that, I don't think there's any intent to be exclusionary; let's face it -- old friends who have known each other for a long time in a large group mingling situation are going to be more comfortable hanging with each other. They may small talk with others and *eventually* warm up, but don't expect to be made to feel like an "old friend" when you first meet and exchange pleasantries.

    Bottom line is, only *you* can decide for yourself if you want to keep participating. Only you can decide for yourself if the aggravations you may be feeling are worth the other benefits or pleasures you derive from it. The last thing I'll say is this: I only came to this board about a month ago, and I'm not sensing much at all (if any) of the elitist/exclusionary attitude you seem to be experiencing.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Major, we've all gone through many of the things you have when new here, and seen other folks go through them too.

    Some become "active posters" as you say, and some "take their ball and go home"

    Your call which one you choose, but if you're asking my opinion, I vote stick around. I like you. image

    In fact in one of your early threads I think I said "hang in there" because you're stirring up the same kind of stuff I myself used to stir up a couple years ago image

    (plus, I still wanna see those choice early coins of yours)

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    Reading Myqqy responce, I personally would not welcome someone who throws in a "Who cares" or similar reply into a thread.
    If I posted a thread I would care.
    If you don't care about the thread move on.....don't reply & go to another thread.
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  • Did I miss something?

    Stick around Major...

    If someone says, "Where are the pictures?"

    Just say, "Here's your stinkin' pictures!"
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  • << <i>

    If someone says, "Where are the pictures?"

    Just say, "Here's your stinkin' pictures!"
    image
    imageimage >>



    Betcha' it wouldn't work--they would be all over my arse with notices of non-imaging, technical advice, etc.

    You can't win for losin' around here!
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can't win for losin' around here!

    you're trying to "win"?

    image

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


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  • Thanks for the violins! How about a cryin' towel too!

    Aren't you one of the guys who accused me of stealing your icon??
  • Hang around, but this place requires thick skin.
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  • << <i>Thanks for the violins! How about a cryin' towel too!

    Aren't you one of the guys who accused me of stealing your icon?? >>



    K6AZ and stman belong to the old grups club..... Just tell them to kiss your arse!image

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