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Detecting and dealing with PVC - An example

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Great information to share Ericimage






    Tom
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    One thing is missing from this great thread, and it's a photograph of one of these soft flips along with a brand name or two. I only buy flips that specifically say do not contain PVC, but flips do vary a bit in appearance and I'd really like a visual reference of what to look out for. If someone could shoot one of these flips and post it, it would be very helpful.
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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    I've often wondered if this is an early stage of PVC or just haze. I don't like it, whatever it is. image
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    Wayne
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    ttt for Snoodle.
  • GoYankeesGoYankees Posts: 1,025
    Thanks for the info Eric. image

    Whenever I crackout an old Green PCI slab, I use a small Pyrex bowl and give the coin an acetone bath. I have the urge to buy a PVC coin (cheap of course) and practice the removal process. I've heard that the old Green PCI/Hallmark slabs have PVC (that shower curtain smell).

    Is rinsing with distilled water a necessity eventhough acetone evaporates quickly?

    -mark
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>Is rinsing with distilled water a necessity eventhough acetone evaporates quickly? >>



    I highly recommend rinsing in distilled water, or pure alcohol. Unless you but the most expensive acetone, there may be doposits that you certainly don't want on your coins.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭✭
    One thing that might be a useful addition to this VERY helpful PVC thread by Eric, would be an easy and quick test of whether or not a given holder has any PVC in it.

    You must of course be very careful, as it involves working with flame.

    Fashion a temporary holder out of some thin copper wire - make sure it is bare with no rubberized coating - and pierce a dime-sized piece of plastic from the holder in question with it, so that it won't fall off.

    Test what color flame is present as you burn it. Again, be careful, often the plastic will immediately curl and drip off. I do this test over my stove, it's easy enough and you don't need to test a LOT of the plastic; again, just a very small amount.

    If the flame burns ORANGE, the plastic is PVC-free. If it burns BRIGHT GREEN - PVC is present.


    Thanks for the thread, Eric. image
  • Thanks for the info and bumping it up, i missed it.

    what is a good acetone to use, hardware store? nail polish remover?

    Thanks,
    /Kore
    I'm on dial up, nuff said!
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>Thanks for the info and bumping it up, i missed it.

    what is a good acetone to use, hardware store? nail polish remover?

    Thanks,
    /Kore >>



    Never, ever use finger nail polish remover, it contains other compounds in addition to the acetone.

    The type of acetone you can buy in hardware stores is fine, though it is not completely pure. Be sure to rinse with pure alcohol or distilled water afterwards.
  • MJPHELANMJPHELAN Posts: 783 ✭✭✭
    I was getting ready to remove some PVC from some silver coins and found this thread very helpful. Worth a bump.
    Mark
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    I think you just miss the old grump.
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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    See, this is good stuff image
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  • tr8certr8cer Posts: 276
    Good thread on PVC cleaning.
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    A little "blast from the past".imageimage
  • critocrito Posts: 1,735
    Sadly, it was too late for this patient, no amount of coin doctoring could save him.
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    acetone is extremely flammable

    good post Mr. Grump
    LCoopie = Les
  • critocrito Posts: 1,735
    Coin doctors with hazardous chemicals... where are the coin cops when you need them. LOL, JK

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,449 ✭✭✭✭✭
    K6AZ made some informative posts here... I wonder what ever became of him...

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>K6AZ made some informative posts here... I wonder what ever became of him... >>

    He still posts elsewhere, good guy, lots of info. short fuse.


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    << <i>K6AZ made some informative posts here... I wonder what ever became of him... >>

    He still posts elsewhere, good guy, lots of info. short fuse. >>



    Ditto. Super short fuse, but very knowledgable.
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  • critocrito Posts: 1,735


    << <i>K6AZ made some informative posts here... I wonder what ever became of him... >>



    He became a grader for ACG.

    LOL, JK again.
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    He still posts elsewhere, good guy, lots of info. short fuse.

    Ditto. Super short fuse, but very knowledgable.


    Rather get knowledgable information from someone with a presumable short fuse than idiotic comments/answers from those with a long fuse.

    Not directed to anyone in perticular, JMO
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad someone bumped this thread up, I was only familiar with PVC after it turned green! When I use acetone, I put into a little Pyrex bowl (bought a set of 3 at the grocery store) and cover it with a glass dish because acetone evaporates quickly. It is also highly combustible, so keep away from flames/sparks. I have also found it helps in removing tape glue residue.
  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OLD THREAD.

    After the dip and rinse, how does the coin dry without getting “wiped” ?

    I found a few coins in my collection the other day, that I had forgotten to remove from the pvc flips.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    OLD THREAD.

    After the dip and rinse, how does the coin dry without getting “wiped” ?

    I found a few coins in my collection the other day, that I had forgotten to remove from the pvc flips.

    You can pat it dry. Never wipe it as it could leave hairlines. Also, some rinse with fresh acetone which quickly evaporates.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    OLD THREAD.

    After the dip and rinse, how does the coin dry without getting “wiped” ?

    I found a few coins in my collection the other day, that I had forgotten to remove from the pvc flips.

    Acetone evaporates very quickly. It's good practice to do a final rinse in clean acetone. If it has contaminants from the initial rinse, some of that can get redeposited on the coin.

    You can check the cleanliness of the acetone by putting a few drops on a piece of Glass and letting it evaporate. If you see a residue left behind, the acetone is dirty

    Acetone is also very flammable and can do number on countertops and plastic pipes. There are a number of threads in the archives on handling this stuff safely. If you are new to acetone, please find them and read them. You don't want to be "That Guy".

    Member of the ANA since 1982

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