This just in!! Coinguy1 and PCGS agree! Bodybag city! (Also other submission results!!!!!!)

Russ

This was a Collector's Club submission. My grades in parenthesis.

1 21580342 1901 1C USA Artificial Color (MS64BN)
2 21580343 1909 1C Indian USA Artificial Color (MS64RB)
3 21580344 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR67 (PR67) (Nailed it.)
4 21580345 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR68CA (PR67CAM) (Very pleasant surprise!)

Date Received: 04/29/2004
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

Mark said that the two IHCs would get a toe tag. Damn him and his mad skilz! I'd be pissed if line #4 didn't pay for the two coins several times over.

Here are the IHCs:





Off to NGC they go.

Here is Line #4:



That one was pulled from a Wayte Raymond page containing a 1963 proof set and a 1964 proof set, picked off on eBay for $20. POP 33/0!

Russ, NCNE

Placid

I guess after looking at those funky ihc's the proofs look better.

stujoe

<< <i>
Mark said that the two IHCs would get a toe tag.
>>



Maybe they Coinguy1 and PCGS are like me and just can't stand the color purple.

Barry

<< <i>That one was pulled from a Wayte Raymond page containing a 1963 proof set and a 1964 proof set, picked off on eBay for $20. POP 33/0!

Russ, NCNE >>


For those of us who know nothing about Kennedys, what's it worth?

Russ

<< <i>For those of us who know nothing about Kennedys, what's it worth? >>



The last one to sell on eBay went for $1025. I think that was a fluke, though. The average in my database is $778.

Russ, NCNE

100proof1957

SWEET !

Russ

This is the page from which it was pulled:



Russ, NCNE

GoYankees

PCGS is like ABC's Wide World of Sports...

The joy of victory, and the agony of defeat.

DHeath

I remember the set. Nice score.

Clankeye

Is that your image of the page, Russ, or the sellers?

Because from that image you wouldn't have a clue that the coin was a Cam.

Clankeye

DHeath

Clank,

That's the seller's image, and from that image, Russ told me it was an AH, and a likely Cam while the auction was live.

Clankeye

<< <i>and from that image, Russ told me it was an AH, and a likely Cam while the auction was live. >>



That Russ, you know he diagnoised my Aunt's thyroid problem over the phone. It's just amazing!

Russ

Yep, it's the seller's image. Marty even saw it as a likely cam. Have to give the Mad One props on that! I'd note, though, that I was only at about 70% certainty that it was an Accented Hair.

Russ, NCNE

PhillyJoe

I must be nuts trying to collect this series. There must be a place in the world without internet that we can send Russ for a little "vacation". BTW, that's a nice coin and a great submission.

Joe

Barry

Nice going Russ. In the folder the coin looks like nothing special...

mgoodm3

good job, at least the last two.

WWW

Those 2 body bagged IHC's look very familiar to me. PCGS bagged them for me too.
If indeed they are the same coins that I think they are. Where did you get them?

Russ

<< <i>Where did you get them? >>



PNNA last month.

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WWW

PNNA last month.

In Tacoma? If these are the same coins, it's rather ironic as I made a 1963 PF68DCAM 50c on the same submission.

Russ

Not in Tacoma, Tukwila. The PNNA is the one decent sized show we have each year. After yours were bodybagged, what did you do with them?

Russ, NCNE

GoldCoinLover

Where do you get all this money Russ?

WWW

After yours were bodybagged, what did you do with them?

I took them back to the dealer who gladly refunded my money and gave me a discount
on another coin to help defray the submission costs. It's going to be a long time before
I take another chance on raw, toned copper.

mozeppa

Russ!
I know that you collect hairy heads...
but i don't know what they are worth in various grades and designations.

how about a run down!

i'll type it...you fill in the numbers....i'm sure more than just myself would like to know!
thanks. mike


proof 66 plain =
cameo =
deep cameo =
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proof 67 plain =
cameo =
deep cameo =
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proof 68 plain =
cameo =
deep cameo =
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proof 69 plain =
cameo =
deep cameo =

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any help is appreciated!

Russ

<< <i>I took them back to the dealer >>



HMM... Friendly guy, about 6' or a little taller, slightly pudgy, thick hair?

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Bubblehead

That's just super, on the AH, Russ!
Seems as tho lots of us rec'd grades back today!
I too, rec'd 2 BB's. I'm embarrassed to display my invoice, tho.

Russ

mozeppa,

PR65 - $20
PR66 - $30
PR67 - $40
PR68 - $90
PR69 - $400

65CAM - $50
66CAM - $90
67CAM - $225
68CAM - $600

65DCAM - $450
66DCAM - $800
67DCAM - $1500
68DCAM - $6000

I haven't adjusted the price guide in a while, and recent trends have been strong so some of the pricing may be a bit low.

Russ, NCNE

WWW

That sounds like him. He's a Boise city fireman by trade but also has a coin shop and travels to quite a few shows.

That 1901 has a light blue spot on the cheek doesn't it?
Here's my submission results with those same coins plus a nice '00 pumpkin:


1 21514885 1900 1C USA Artificial Color
2 21514886 1901 1C USA Artificial Color
3 21514887 1909 1C Indian USA Artificial Color
4 21514888 1962 50C USA PR68DC

Russ

<< <i>That sounds like him. He's a Boise city fireman by trade but also has a coin shop and travels to quite a few shows. >>



That's him. He said he was a fireman. I guess I'll have to start asking "have these coins ever been bodybagged at PCGS?"

Russ, NCNE

WWW

Small world. I can't wait to show him this thread. Wait a second...he's up doing a show in Tacoma this weekend....

Russ

<< <i>Wait a second...he's up doing a show in Tacoma this weekend.... >>



I'm planning to be there tomorrow. I think I may have a little fun with this.

Russ, NCNE

Clankeye

It's a small world, afterall.

Russ

Oh yeah, at least PCGS was consistent.

Russ, NCNE

GTOster

Way to go on the last 2 Sorry to hear about the first 2
Paul
PS in the mail

RAD

Russ...where did that one go after you took it out of the album (and before sending to PCGS)....or what did yo do to it??!!??

Russ

<< <i>PR65 - $20
PR66 - $30
PR67 - $40
PR68 - $90
PR69 - $400

65CAM - $50
66CAM - $90
67CAM - $225
68CAM - $600

65DCAM - $450
66DCAM - $800
67DCAM - $1500
68DCAM - $6000 >>



HMM...I may have to adjust that. I just sold a PR67DCAM for $3506.

Russ, NCNE

MrSpud

Nice grades on the Kennedies. Too bad about the Indian Heads.

Why did this one go for so low? NGC PR 67 Cam for $111.59 Is is just because it is in a NGC instead of a PGCS?

Russ

Spud,

That's about right for an NGC graded PR67CAM. PCGS brings $300 plus in the same grade.

Russ, NCNE

Elcontador

Russ. purple and pink are two colors you DO NOT want to see on otherwise Unc. copper.

WWW

Whoa... this is so weird. I was at the Fireman's shop today and we discussed those well traveled IHC's. He'll buy them back if you want.

Russ

WWW,

I may want to submit them a few more times.

Russ, NCNE

Russ

<< <i>Russ. purple and pink are two colors you DO NOT want to see on otherwise Unc. copper. >>



Purple is very common on copper. At least on Lincolns it is. I've had many of them graded both at PCGS and NGC.

Russ, NCNE

kryptonitecomics

<< <i>Russ. purple and pink are two colors you DO NOT want to see on otherwise Unc. copper. >>



To add a little more to this sentiment...I would say if the coin looks like a Red...but has some of theat funky purple.....it could be questionable. Purple is one of the more common colors on RB's and BN MS IHC....you just have to know what to look for.

I couldn't tell a cam from a Dcam if my life depended on it....but those IHC were very obviously AT/recolored. I only know that becuase I have been there and done that and now know some of the tell tale signs.....TBT saved me some cash at FUN this year.