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My travel plans have changed

I received this email from one of the more prestigious dealers in Germany:

Regarding your visit to Germany,

I am the exclusive dealer for the greatest collector of Goetz medals in Germany, he already has about 1500 medals of Goetz. For sure there are some pieces you do not know, may be sizes or metals. I contacted him and told him
that you are planning a new website. He is willing to assist you and to meet you in Hamburg if this is practicable within your travel-tour.

My private idea and suggestion to you is, to invite him as a co-author for he can give you a lot of informations and pictures and has detailed notices too. Naturally I will give any help to you too.

Please inform me about your opinion to these proposals to enable me to inform the collector and to discuss an eventual date for meeting with him.

Best Regards

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Now how could I turn down an offer like this? It looks like my buddy and I will loop through Hamburg either upon arrival to Germany or on our return to Sweden. I will have my camera with me and try to get some shots. I see more trips to Germany, particularly Munich, in my future as this trip will only be laying the foundation for future research and contacts.

This trip is looking more fruitful every day! image



PS: Oh Yeah, I forgot to mention, I recently won a rare 140mm Goetz Hitler medal (K-578) from 1940 from this dealer. I'll be picking up the piece when I visit. This will guarantee that I don't return home empty handed!!

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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Damn you lucky dog. Bring me back some patterns.

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  • <<<This trip is looking more fruitful every day! >>>

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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    Congrats, looks like lifes plans may be changing as well, you never know where it will lead you. Hope this proves to be a very useful. would love to see some pictures also, Haven't been through Germany since '75 and then it was only a short stop in Frankfurt.
  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    First time for me too with the exception of long lay-overs in Frankfurt between eastern europe and the U.S.. It's going to be a kick in the butt as we are traveling in a sportscar with convertable hardtop. There are a number of wursts with my name on them...heh heh
  • oldshepoldshep Posts: 3,240
    We will be awaiting your travelogue with great anticipation.image
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  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928
    You have an amazing opportunity here to really have a great personal experience, and to bring something of importance to exnomia onto the web.

    I envy you the good work ahead.

    Clankeye
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    K 578 looks like it would be an amazing piece in 140 mm.
    Bill

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  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    Here is a B/W photo of a struck example in 36mm.

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  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,967 ✭✭✭
    It's a great opportunity for you, cache. Enjoy it!!
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  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭
    Sounds like a blast! We expect full details and many photos on your return!image
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if the collector there will help you fund your project too? I hope it works out well, as his collection could be an immense asset to your project.

    Don't let the medals fly out of that vert!!!

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    "I will loop through Hamburg either upon arrival to Germany or on our return to Sweden."

    Sound like fun, have a good time. Will you be stopping off anywhere else?
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    We will be going to Osnabrück to see Künker and Olding, Essen to see Pater, and Kassel/Espanau to see Moeller. My buddy has a list of coin fairs and auctions that we will sporadically try to hit when we can. In Sweden we have have an auction to go to shortly after my arrival in Kristianstad and then a coin fair near Malmo on the 17th-18th. We'll head to Germany via Denmark on the 19th. image
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Have you ever thought of taking on an adopted son?image
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  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    If I ever did, it would be one with deep pockets like you....image
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Daddy!
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  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    image You need to shave for your baby picture.....
  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713
    Fantastic luck, Scott!!! This will be such a superb experience for you!! I'm looking forward to the trip report! Please tell Pater and Moeller that I send my best regards.


    Congrats also on the Hitler medal! That's a rarity, especially so nice! You can tell Goetz didn't have his heart in it.
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You can tell Goetz didn't have his heart in it. >>



    My thoughts exactly, but I was reluctant to say it. I wouldn't recognize it as a Goetz if I wasn't told.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can tell Goetz didn't have his heart in it.

    Maybe so, but at least he gave it some thought. The tree on the reverse looks like it has seen some tough times, and the roots look more like an octopus than a tree.
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  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    Again, this is the struck, 36mm, example of the K-578 that I showed above. I don't expect a whole lot of difference between the two but the cast piece should appear a little more rugged.

    Goetz tolerated Hitler (did he really have any other choice?) but he had a difficult time conforming to the design requirement that medals show the heroism of Germany's leaders in the classical tradition. This expressionless piece could almost be viewed as the antithesis of the original German expressionisitic movement, to create pieces that express personal feelings while at the same time convey precise and particular political and satirical messages.

    Not my favorite subject matter, but an evil necessity toward a comprehensive Goetz collection nonetheless.
  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713
    Goetz was a German nationalist, but disliked Hitler and the Nazis. In fact, he produced some satirical pieces of their Munich shenanigans that kept him sufficient hot water with the Party that he went to great effort to reclaim and destroy. Remember, if the Party disliked you, you couldn't get any work. I strongly suspect that this particular issue is a double-entendre at the Hitlerites' expense. Note that there are two stumps in the "Tree of Germany". I'll bet they represent the cutting down of the Empire (which he loved) and the (eventual) cutting down of its Third Reich successor ... and a new, living branch growing out of that. Subtle enough to say "This, too, shall pass ... but Germany will endure" without having the Gestapo knocking on his door. If pressed, he could explain the second stump represented the despised Weimar government and the new branch the Reich; this would be plausible to the authorities, but since Goetz himself didn't consider the Weimar government to be a "true" German government ....
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