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Received fake coins: what to do?

I (a newbie) received two seated dollars from auction on sleazeBay.
Although I am a newbie, I know enough to tell a cast coin from a struck
coin so I examined the coins under a 15x microscope and it was
obvious. These are the 1871 and 1872 dollars you can see for sale
(some state they are fake, so say they don't know - yea right).

The seller was contacted and claimed he was not aware of this and
that his dad left them to him, yada yada.. he said I should return them
and he'll refund my paypal.

Question is, do I return the coins? Or what?
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,780 ✭✭✭✭
    RETURN THEM! If you don't, you'll regret it.
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  • Return it. the seller may be a fraudster, but everyone deserves (some) benefit of the doubt. give him/her a bit of leeway to make things right. Return it fully insured with tracking.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    How long ago did you pay for them and how did you pay?
  • My question is along the line: should I report him to the authorities?
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  • It's been about a week and I used paypal. If I return them
    and he turns out to be a crook, I've just lost any evidence.
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  • TootawlTootawl Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭
    Return them, get your money back, and count this as a learning experience... a very cheap learning experience.
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  • hookedoncoinshookedoncoins Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    I would give him a chance to make things right. Some sellers in all honesty don't know a cast copy from an original. If you get your money back as he promises, I would consider it a positive transaction and not report the dealer. You don't have to know what your selling to sell on ebay.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Well make sure you send it back with a signature required so the seller can't say he never got them.
    Also if it starts getting close to the 30 day limit for paypal file a claim with them and if you used a credit card with paypal let them know also.
    I doubt the authorities would do much other than take the dollars.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Tootawl and hookedoncoins.And a nicely struck Max.image
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    Well, his story could be true, I heard a lot of people who know nothing about coins found fake coins in their parents' collections. Apparently, some DEALERs used to sell fake coins.image
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  • Big Greek

    Here is some info I got from CU members not long ago.

    You have 30 days to file a Buyers Complaint with PayPal

    Send the coin with delivery confirmation. When/if the seller does not refund you threaten to file a negative, a fraud complaint with eBay, and a Square Trade dispute. Worked for a forum member Got the one seller who stiffed him removed from eBay.


    Another thing, make sure if they refund you via PP they click the refund button, otherwise you refund is just another PP transaction and THEY CHARGE YOU FEES FOR GETTING YOUR OWN $$ BACK !!!

    I think this was good advise that I recieved for returnig coins purchased on eBay.

    Good Luck,

    Bill.
    Bill.

    Bust Half & FSB Merc Collector
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another opportunity from the same seller!
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    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • You might want to photograph or scan them before you return them ASAP. Definately send them with signature confirmation as suggested above.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Return them and watch the seller sell them again.
  • Invest in a good scale for weight and a set of digital calipers for dimensions. Even on travel to coin shows or dealers, you will have the information quickly and know if it is real or not!
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Return...fast!
    All glory is fleeting.
  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    Offer them to Doop. As he said in the previous thread, the coins are ABSOLUTELY ORIGINAL, you POSITIVELY CAN'T GO WRONG, this is your chance to STEP UP TO THE BIG LEAGUES, don't even think about passing up on this major RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPP!!!!!
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, doop said: pics are of rock solid anacs xf40 and xf45 superb surfaced wholesomely original coins
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  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    AND DON'T LET THIS STUPID F%*&#!@*ING FISH GET AWAY!!!!!!. NOW THAT HIS OLD MAN IS DEAD, IT'S YOUR CHANCE FOR A MAJOR SCORE!!! OFFER HIM ALL THE MONEY YOU HAVE FOR WHATEVER HE IS SELLING!!!!! TRAVEL HALF WAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY IF YOU HAVE TO. BETTER YET, MAKE AN OFFER SIGHT UNSEEN BEFORE YOU LOSE THIS DEAL!!!!!!!!

    At least that is what is sounded like he was trying to say.
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570


    << <i>My question is along the line: should I report him to the authorities? >>



    Report him to who for what?

    Worry about getting your money back. File a buyers Protection claim with Paypal, ship them insured with a return receipt.
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  • << <i>

    << <i>My question is along the line: should I report him to the authorities? >>



    Report him to who for what?

    Worry about getting your money back. File a buyers Protection claim with Paypal, ship them insured with a return receipt. >>



    Isn't there a "coin police" out there? They seem to have police for
    just about everything else.
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