Some thoughts on crossovers....

Clankeye

In my time on the forum I have seen the question put many times about crossing coins into PCGS holders. Whether it is best to send them in under the crossover service, or to crack them out.

I was looking at a coin of mine today. Nice coin, which just happens to be in an NGC holder, but I would like to add to my little reg set. Which is something I have for pure entertainment.

I looked at the coin, noticed a few small dings on the reverse, decided it is a strong five and is absolutely worhty of 65 in any holder. But, I thought about the thought process of the graders at PCGS if they are grading a coin for crossover, and I think they would be less than human, if every little tic on a coin in another services' holder didn't stand out to them--out of porportion--to how that tic would look if the coin was being graded raw.

I guess my point is, I would never send a coin in on crossover, because not only does that coin have to genuinely make the grade--but it almost has to be better, to overcome the natural prejudice of the human factor.

Not a criticism--just an observation.

Clankeye

MadMonk

I'd say you had a pretty good grasp of human nature.

Placid

Dang the ones I got upgrades on should have been 66's and ngc ungraded them by 2 points

RLinn

On crossovers I thought the grade was covered so the PCGS grader didn't know what the coin was graded by the other service.

Elcontador

Well, if you send it in raw, you may get your grade. OTOH, you're risking a downgrade
or a bodybag (I've seen expensive AT'd coins get slabbed by the majors). If either of
the negative scenarios take place, you're out more $ for grading fees just to get back to
where you started. And of course, don't forget the aggravation.

I've seen too many threads where people went this route, and graders being human,
they miss one every now and then. I don't want this kind of aggravation.

I did cross a Classic Head 1/2 Cent from NGC to PCGS at the same grade 4 years ago.
I think it crossed because it was a nice coin.

The crossover % has dropped since then. Could this be because more people who don't
know how to grade are sending their "Third World" slabs to PCGS?? Have new graders
come to PCGS with different standards? Or, is there some sort of acrimony going on
between the majors?

I'm not a big fish in this pond. You figure it out.

Placid

<< <i>On crossovers I thought the grade was covered so the PCGS grader didn't know what the coin was graded by the other service. >>



For crossovers, graders now see the grade of the coin in the holder. This is a change we recently made as we used to cover up the grades. We made this change to try and improve the crossover rate.

Answer in the Q&A forum.

Clankeye

<< <i>On crossovers I thought the grade was covered so the PCGS grader didn't know what the coin was graded by the other service. >>



Well, even if the grade is covered, they can sure recognize another services holder. Which brings in that human factor of the coin having to be a little bit better than what it might be viewed as raw.

Just a theory.

Clankeye

Shamika

"...not only does that coin have to genuinely make the grade--but it almost has to be better, to overcome the natural prejudice of the human factor."

Yep, I also figured this would be the case.

Russ

<< <i>you're risking a downgrade or a bodybag...If either of the negative scenarios take place, you're out more $ for grading fees just to get back to where you started. >>



Or, you could end up with a POP 1/0 coin the next time it's submitted and end up ahead of where you started.

I will NEVER submit a crossover again. I've been through it before, so I should have known better. After my last experience, they will all be crackovers.

Russ, NCNE