grade the Flowing Hair half dollar

Baley

Finally got one of these,
what do you guys think this coin grades?





(holdered by ANACS.... for now )

airplanenut

yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crackout time?

EVillageProwler

Do you know which Overton variety that is?

EVP

Baley

It's a 113a, with the die flaw to the right of the 5 in the date.

Baley

Crackout time?

I dunno... do you think it would look good in the space for it?

EVillageProwler

I figured that that die flaw is a key diagnostic. I forgot to say before, but it appears to be a very nice coin from the image. Congrats!

EVP

1jester

WAG of VG-8.

Nic

Congrat.'s Baley! I love this design. Nice coin. K

RYK

Very cool...congrats

mdwoods

You gotta love Flowing Hair coinage. Nice score Baley.

Baley

thanks guys!

looong time looking. these things are scarce and usually beat to hell, cleaned, or both.

numobri

Yes, very nice coin,congrats.

I like the same design but twice as big.

jbsteven

f12?

KAJ1

I would say the same as jbsteven. F-12 perhaps a little better.
Is there a F-15 ?

Baley

Here's one that PCGS called VG-10

Barry

G-6. Nice coin!

northcoin

JBsteven beat me to it. I have a flowing hair dollar that looks like similar wear and I'd say based on its grade yours is an F12. (The grading services are a little more generous with these classic pieces.)

islemangu

Nice
a total newbie here on flowing hair, couldnt understand why denomination not on design and went to the Redbook saying on the edge with decorations but no pic. Kind of curious now what the edge looks like so if you crack it out for your album or maybe even a link to a pic

Wondo

VG-8 or possibly F-12

Colorfulcoins

F12. I'm also looking for a low grade example .....a braddick special.

XpipedreamR

8

coinkat

Congrats on an excellent addition. I think it is either VG10 or F12.

ARCO

Now that is a damnnn fine Flowing hair half. I would say VG10 and with a very nice contrasting original toning to boot. I have been looking for a nice VG10 or F12 half just like yours for a couple of years now. They are not easy to find nice like that.

Tyler

agentjim007

Ya should have bought it 25 years ago, they ain't that scarce. Even two years ago would have saved you a bundle.

dan1ecu

I have one in VG08 (NGC). Yours looks a little better than mine, so I'll say F12 or F15.

Dan

goose3

Fantastic Coin!

Striker

Congrats, that will be a great addition to your collection. It will look great in that empty spot.

LucyBop

Way Crazy Hepcat!!! I'm happy for you!!!!!

knumbs

I beleive flowing hair coins are classic Americana, and only available in 1/2 dim, 1/2 dollar and dollar.

Nice coin--VG10 or F12 IMO!

mgoodm3

VG

EVillageProwler

Islemangu,

As a total newbie -- your words -- please tell us how we all knew that the coin was a half dollar and not some other silver denomination.

EVP

Dave99B

NICE INDEED! VG8

Dave

kieferscoins

VG-08 ANACS.

Cameron Kiefer

tippingmyhat

very very nice.

i would say a
F12

knumbs

<< <i>Islemangu,

As a total newbie -- your words -- please tell us how we all knew that the coin was a half dollar and not some other silver denomination.

EVP >>

knumbs

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<< <i>Islemangu,

As a total newbie -- your words -- please tell us how we all knew that the coin was a half dollar and not some other silver denomination.

EVP >>

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Duh! Maybe 'cause the 1st post said grade this half dollar??

JrGMan2004

Complete Newbie here, and I figured it out, other than the fact that Baley said it was a Half Dollar, which I think was the point EVP was trying to make I guess... anyways, the difference is in the placement of the bottom curl... on the Dollar, the bottom curl is in between Star 7 and 8 (If one counts the stars from left to right, top to bottom) where as on the Half, the bottom curl is above the 8th star... Took me a bit of comparing between the Red Book pics and the posted Pics...

doop

Rock solid PCGS VG10

islemangu

Thanks JrGman...I could not see anything to distinguish a half and didnt have my Redbook handy
I bet none of this rich guys here have one raw to show us the edge decorations

Baley

The coin is in an ANACS VG8 holder, for now. I will crack it out in the next week or so, and post pictures of the edge lettering, before it finds a semi-permanent home in the Whitman album (where it will stay for the next couple of decades, if all goes well...). I agree with the VG8 grade for this piece, it does have claims to VG10 based on details, nice full rims, denticles and lettering, and nice original looking dark toning with lighter highpoints, positive overall eye appeal. It loses a little for an apparently very old and light scratch across the neck and a couple small marks, so VG9 might be about right, and in fact, that's what she cost (slight premium above Vg8 price for the original look as well as a slightly better variety, the 113a listed in Overton as a R4 (probably more like R3) and with the added interest of the A in STATES recut over an E, serifs of the E clearly visible. Thanks for your comments everyone, and as always, post your coins of this type!

Baley

agentjim, Ya should have bought it 25 years ago

dood, 25 years ago I was an 11 year old kid. The coin is listed in my Redbook at $550, a number that exceeds the entire value of my collection at that time. There was no way I could have afforded it then. Thanks though!

Pushkin

Congratulations. Always a good day when you find that coin that you have been looking for for years.

ClausUrch

Nice one....Not famiiar with these but would say at least VG10! Congrats!

Baley

my main criterion, other than less than a thousand dollars, was that it looked "never scrubbed"

greghansen

Put me in the F12 camp. The wear is even as is the color. Nice coin. Looking for one myself to go with the 1795 Dollar.

EVillageProwler

I didn't notice that Baley had already identified the coin's denomination.

JrG, yes, it was my intent to be instructional. I think it's a good thing for people who are interested in the FH type to be able to easily visually distinguish a great deal.

EVP

1jester

Nice coin, Baley. I'm glad my conservative grade was correct!

What's the prize???

stman

Baley let me give you a belated Congratulations on this acquisition. And thanks for the link. After going to play at the San Jose show yesterday (Saturday) I had to pay for that opportunity last night and all day today in sweat.

Looks like a nice piece, with some nice looking dirt. Couldn't see the denticles when I looked but I'm sure there is some nice looking dirt there as well. When I started my interest in early halves, of course it was the flowing hair that sparked me. You beat me too acquiring one.... But you've been waiting longer than me so I'd like tip my hat to you if I did indeed wear one. Enjoy!!!!

Baley

Thanks everyone, and thanks stman for killing my thread (again) Looking forward to seeing what you got at the show, knowing you it's probably pretty nice. Anyway, yep, plenty of dirt in all the right places on this piece, and a nice overall appearance for a VG. Paid fairly strong money, at $860, but again, I really really needed one that hadn't been "warshed off" and "scrubbed nice and shiney" (in fact, I also didn't want one "with an old cleaning, now starting to retone" such as the VG i linked. Anyway..

AS ALWAYS, POST YOUR COINS OF THIS TYPE! I'd be very interested in seeing other specimens.

ealandg

I've got a NGC graded dollar that looks just like it - F12.

paigowjohnny

Baley and his darn type set again !!! SELL ME THAT 20 CENTER !!!
His backup Whitman type set is nicer than my only set...he sucks
We're "homies" here in San Diego..we gotta get together sometime for a showing...