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Hey Cameron, I have to know...
MadMarty
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Do you collect real coins or just sample slabs?
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
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Russ, NCNE
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
CammieBot 2.0
I know you are lying because "Sheriff Sample Slab" would never partake in any type of insidious behavior.
Someone once told me (jokingly) that if I quote Biblical references, then my posts would have more weight. Well, here goes nothing:
"Let he who is without blame cast the first stone."
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
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"I am perfect. Once I thought thought I made a mistake, but I was wrong."
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
Gimme a rock!
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
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<< <i>but I thought this thread started off topical. >>
It is, that is why I pointed it out.
CammieBot 2.0
I meant that the thread started off being "on topic" to this forum.
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
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Cameron Kiefer
Seems as though you have a lot of clout with the "CU" gurus as well!
Bulldog
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Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>You guys do know that you're picking on someone who tried to do the right thing -- albeit in a slightly annoying sort of way. Any chance that you'd be willing to cut him some slack? After all, we're all imperfect!
Someone once told me (jokingly) that if I quote Biblical references, then my posts would have more weight. Well, here goes nothing:
"Let he who is without blame cast the first stone."
EVP >>
I believe it is "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
so far I have quite a nice collection of raw tags from slabs I have broken. Since the coin itself is of no importance, I usually spend it or if no one will accept an obsolete coin in payment i just throw it away.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Cameron Kiefer
I know about the ones done for a class at the University of Texas awhile back and I can slearly see why those were considered samples. Yes, I know it says sample on the front, duh.
Does every sample slab slab contain a coin that would otherwise be worth only face value?
I have a PCGS one with a 64 MS67 Rosevelt in it, but I bought it in a lot with other things that I actually wanted, I figured it's value to be almost nothing at the time and would have bid the same with or without it in the group.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
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Samples are given away for free and usually do have the word "sample" on the label. Mt website explains it much better:
www.sampleslabs.com
Cameron kiefer
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<< <i>Cameron, Bite me. >>
Cameron Kiefer
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Thats real funny. >>
It wasn't meant to be funny. It also wasn't my first choice. You can thank the word filters for that.
<< <i> I can see now why coinguy1 needs to take a break.
Cameron Kiefer >>
Yeah. I am such a forum troublemaker.
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<< <i>Is Cammie really such a hyper-sensitive humorless little drone, or is it just an act? Somebody that young really should have more of a sense of fun about them. >>
Bingo, Russ...you hit the nail square on the head. If he's so uptight in his teens, he'll be suicidal by the time he's thirty!
Not everyone follows all the rules to the letter, and as far as I know, nobody was put upon this Earth to be the watchdog over all.
When I was going through my teens:
I drank, went to school, smoked (cigarettes), did my homework, played, laughed.
When I went to college:
I drank, went to class, drank, smoked (still only cigarettes), drank, did my homework, drank, and graduated.
Did 20 years in the USAF where I drank, smoked (ciggies only), worked, drank, successfully raised a family, and retired
Now I'm a responsible adult and I still drink, smoke (still only cigarettes), work for a living, attend evening graduate classes, do homework.
And you know what? I STILL HAVE FUN! Cuz life was meant to enjoy.
So, loosen up Cammie me ole mucker! Have a beer, no...have a FEW beers, kick back and enjoy life!
Cheers,
Bob
<< <i>At the risk of sounding foolish here, just what is it that makes a slab a "sample". Samples are usually free, were these free originally?
I know about the ones done for a class at the University of Texas awhile back and I can slearly see why those were considered samples. Yes, I know it says sample on the front, duh.
Does every sample slab slab contain a coin that would otherwise be worth only face value?
I have a PCGS one with a 64 MS67 Rosevelt in it, but I bought it in a lot with other things that I actually wanted, I figured it's value to be almost nothing at the time and would have bid the same with or without it in the group. >>
NGC had free sample slabs at their Long Beach booth. I got one with a Missouri quarter in it.
<< <i>NGC had free sample slabs at their Long Beach booth. I got one with a Missouri quarter in it. >>
So did I, but I cracked it out and spent the quarter. Had it been in a PCGS sample slab the coin would have been worth more than face.
Cameron Kiefer
FanOfModerns: I am curious, without trying to provoke you -- Why are you so much against NGC, and so antagonistic towards them?
Most would concur that NGC and PCGS both comprise the top tier of coin grading services, with ANACS probably the third place grading service.
Have you had a bad experience with NGC? Or, are you a family member or close personal friend of someone within PCGS?
Your posts seem extremely unbalanced...
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
<< <i>FanofModerns: Did you happen to get a low serial number nGC slab?
Cameron Kiefer >>
<< <i>So did I, but I cracked it out and spent the quarter. Had it been in a PCGS sample slab the coin would have been worth more than face.
FanOfModerns: I am curious, without trying to provoke you -- Why are you so much against NGC, and so antagonistic towards them?
Most would concur that NGC and PCGS both comprise the top tier of coin grading services, with ANACS probably the third place grading service.
Have you had a bad experience with NGC? Or, are you a family member or close personal friend of someone within PCGS?
Your posts seem extremely unbalanced... >>
PCGS coins sell for the most so therefore they are the best graders. Anyone who says otherwise probably doesn't know what they are talking about or works for the other grading company or wants to sell overgraded coins to people.
FanOfModerns is a poser with a running gag directed at modern collectors of PCGS material. He's not really serious.
Russ, NCNE
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
There is a reason why PCGS coins sell for the most. They are the best.
Some people don't like my opinions because I collect moderns. I can't help that. Maybe one day I will collect what they collect and they will be happy. I do know when that time comes they will be PCGS coins only!
<< <i>I still can't decide if this FOM guy is trying to be funny or serious. >>
Baley,
Read his last post. It should be very helpful in arriving at the correct conclusion.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Stuart,
FanOfModerns is a poser with a running gag directed at modern collectors of PCGS material. He's not really serious.
Russ, NCNE >>
Marguli Lives????
I have no idea how many slabbed coins I have, but it is several hundred and most of them are PCGS, feel better?
My last submission went across the street, wanna guess why?
How about 32 calendar day turnaround on economy? I was talking to a guy at one of the local stores yesterday and he was at 102 days and counting on PCGS economy.
Would I prefer to go PCGS? Usually, but the current turnaround times are totally unacceptable. If you refuse to even look at a coin in another slab, you will miss out on some nice stuff. Somehow I'm guessing that went right over your head.
I like this forum and the people around here, well, nearly all of them anyway.
Ease up, guy. Life's too short to go around with blinders on.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
Russ: Thanks for providing me with your (above) insight on FOM's game plan...
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
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<< <i>Is Cammie really such a hyper-sensitive humorless little drone, or is it just an act? Somebody that young really should have more of a sense of fun about them. >>
Bingo, Russ...you hit the nail square on the head. If he's so uptight in his teens, he'll be suicidal by the time he's thirty!
Not everyone follows all the rules to the letter, and as far as I know, nobody was put upon this Earth to be the watchdog over all. >>
Unfortunately, most cops think they were put on this earth to be the watchdog over all, and as a wannabe cop, Cameron fits this M.O. quite well, there is NO gray area with cops, it is either right or wrong, PERIOD. He will either outgrow this as time goes on, (hopefully) or he will advance to kicking down doors of people using bongs (GASP) in the privacy of their own homes and traumatizing their children for life. In the meantime, I think he handles himself quite well and takes the ribbing (albeit self-induced) quite well.
Joe
Drop the attitude. It's getting old.
Many are here for the fun of the hobby.
Who in the L cares about the slab.
Sure PCGS is a great company but not the only one.
Joe
I used to enjoy your threads and your hunger for numismatics. But as of late, your posts seem to be written from a spoiled child's point of view. Seems you want to win at all costs, even when there is nothing to win.
You have been very good at becoming the board policeman, and trying to shove people, decades your senior, around. When I was a young lad, many years ago, my Mom taught me an adage that went " Children should be seen, but never heard" when in a crowd.
An old uncle of mine from Kentucky, taught me that "a fish that never opens it mouth, never gets caught".
Young man, in my very humble opinion, you should re evaluate your status and importance on this board, and try to regain some of it.
Personally, I could care less what you do. I just hate to see the early talent that you expressed when you first came on board, to evaporate at the rate it is. I am sure that you are a great KID, with wild aspirations of becoming a Homerunhall type.
Just lighten up, a simple apology to the board or softer words in your threads should help you immensely. I in no means express my opinion of you, as a personal attack. You have so much to offer. Please try to reevaluate and share good stuff with us. There are enough adults on this board, to be mean spirited.
Take this thread with a grain of salt if you will. I am no more important on this board than any other member/poster.
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