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Shouldn't the "FOR SALE" stuff be in the "FOR SALE" forum? Sorry I brought it u

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  • littlewicherlittlewicher Posts: 1,822 ✭✭
    Legend, stop acting like a snotty know it all. You act like you are supreme to the rest of us. One of these days your snotty attitude is going to catch up to you. I've had people PM me and tell me that you won't even say hi to people who stop by at your tables at shows that say hi to you! Plus they said that you don't like people looking at your coins that can't afford them. I must say, you're quite a contradictory being all in yourself. You lecture us on "lack of ethics." Well, where are your ethics? Plus, it is not like you post here that much. I don't know why you're so worried about it. I guess you just have to find things to complain about........... Oh well, you can only help a certain percentage of the population, the rest are just helpless.


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  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    MY GOD! image


    When I go to sleep there's 36 responses to this post. I get up 8 hours later and there's 50. I think this should be scheduled as a quarterly topic. It appears obvious discussing buying and selling coins is more interesting to some, who have come out of the woodwork to discuss this issue, than talking about issues relating to coins. imageimage

    Do feel sorry for brining it up ineedof70s, you struck gold with this topic. image
    Dan
  • But it WAS decided that NO EBAY SALES WOULD BE ON HERE........whats up now, I already see them here again.........
    Dennis

    My Dimes

    << If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right the first time! >>
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For discussions about PCGS registry sets - building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them.

    which of the links seems to fit with the spirit of the home page description??
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    these were taken at random from the top 15 threads on the page. what strikes me is that they aren't the only threads which pertain to obvious sales. if you go through the first page of threads, it's clearly dominated by sales pitches. is that really what this forum is about? while i understand the want of some to be able to list items here, it's clearly abused by a few members who's main purpose in posting them is in no way to be confused with discussing coins, just selling coins. isn't there another forum for that??

    the end result is that a thread with obvious discussion and numismatic value is pushed off the page in a few days.

    al h.image
  • WOW, nasty, nasty, nasty. Sorry I tried to make things better....


    As far as me not saying hi-probably so! I have a very LAME excuse-I get so incredibly busy that even if it looks I am standing there I could be in the middle 10 different things. Sometimes I just can't drop my thoughts. In the case of Charlotte-I had a HORRIBLE cold and didn't want to speak to anyone (ask ANYONE who really was there and saw on Sat)-I couldn't go back to my room, had to much to do-so yes, I am guilty! Anyone ever have a bad cold and travel?

    However, I do NOT ignore people because they can't afford our coins. Thats is blatent BS and an OUT RIGHT LIE that I will not tolerate. That statement is from someone who obviously does NOT know me and is simply out to cause trouble (like a juvenile delinquent would) or maybe to do so on behalf of a competitor. I NEVER know who walks up to the table anyway. When my head is on right, I DO say hello to everyone and treat them with TOTAL respect. I explained myself inthe prior paragraph about my attention span at shows.

    Anyway, I've said my peace. This is yet another thread thats gone away from its original content. I appologize. I wanted to keep the chat boards as a place to do just that-chat without being rudely solicited (pending on interpertation of the boards rules) .
    Laura Sperber


    JUST SAY NO TO WANNABES! They lurk and prey on unwitting collectors in chatrooms!
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Legend, stop acting like a snotty know it all. You act like you are supreme to the rest of us. One of these days your snotty attitude is going to catch up to you. I've had people PM me and tell me that you won't even say hi to people who stop by at your tables at shows that say hi to you! Plus they said that you don't like people looking at your coins that can't afford them. I must say, you're quite a contradictory being all in yourself. You lecture us on "lack of ethics." Well, where are your ethics? Plus, it is not like you post here that much. I don't know why you're so worried about it. I guess you just have to find things to complain about........... Oh well, you can only help a certain percentage of the population, the rest are just helpless. >>




    You have the nerve to lecture someone on ethics? now THAT is funny.
  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    TradeDollarNut,

    I would suggest that you need to include Legend in your post. Your organization (clearly you are part of it) also receives a high level of visibility from this forum. You are also receiving a bit of "free" advertising. This is true of the folks you listed as well as Legend. Just dont pretend you are not receiving the same benefit. It is just a bit self serving IMHO.

    That said, I appreciate all the posts regarding the high quality rare coins that the dealers do show and tell with. I also agree with the statement that there are very few dealers who specialize in moderns, while there is a growing number of collectors in that area. It is a different paradigm and while I dont collect them, but I certainly support the activities surrounding them on this forum.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • ZerbeZerbe Posts: 587 ✭✭
    inneedof70s
    Member <<< THIS IS THE POST THAT started this thread >>>

    Posts: 114
    Joined: Oct 2002
    Thursday March 27, 2003 3:57 PM



    I just put some stuff in the for sale registry and came over here to look around. I would sure like to see the for sale stuff over there and the discussions about registry issues or....in this forum. Seems to just clutter up the forum when that stuff is posted in both forums.

    Of course this is just IMHO.

    (Donning flame suit)

    But you can go look over there and see what I have for sale too

    Mike


    _____________________________________________________


    Isn't it ironic that the person who started this thread, is actually advertising his coins at the same time as saying no selling or advertising should be for sale here.
    Simply stated rules of the Registry forum allow for Registry sets or registry quality coins to be sold or traded here. That is part of the makeup of the Registry Forum. I think some people logged on to the Registry Forum and thought they were on the US Forum, because that is what it is starting to resemble. That is all I have to say, except that if I want to advertise one of my Registry Sets or One of my Registry Coins on the REGISTRY FORUM, then I will not be doing anything wrong, and do not expect any backlash. I also appreciate any dealer linking their website containing Registry Quality Coins.
    A simple little "LINK" at the bottom of a post by a dealer is totally accepted and helpfull to myself and I assume many others on the REGISTRY FORUM.
    This is not the US FORUM: It is the Registry Forum and the rules are quite simple and clear. It is petty nonesense being argued here as far as I am concerned.




  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey paul

    we're not arguing, we're discussing!!image

    al h.image
  • Ironic?

    I'm not a "regular" to these forums. I usually look at both, but I read only what interests me. I was NOT trying to be sneaky and put them up for sale here. I was GOING TO, but decided not to and then posed the question because I had seen other for sale stuff here in the past. I, like anyone else, don't want to miss an opportunity, but I also don't want to be a part of the problem.

    I posted the question because I wanted an answer or a guide in the etiquette of the forum. I certainly did not expect to raise so many hostilitys.

    Now that I think my question has been answered, I'll sum up what I've learned:

    1) I will only post FOR SALE items here that are high quality or difficult to find and would be of interest to registry owners.

    2) I will NEVER pose this question again on this forum!!!!!

    3) The coins I was offering are NOT the type that should be posted here.

    4) There are a whole bunch of highly opinionated collecter on this board.

    5) There are not enough Modern dealers of high quality coins out there. (by the way, I only know of two. Are there any more?)

    6) People on this board rarely sleep.

    7) Only one current thread has more posts than this one.

    8) The flame suit was necessary.

    I might have missed a few lessons, but for the most part that pretty well covers it.
  • DRGDRG Posts: 817
    Here we go again!

    Yes this topic is rehashed every few months.

    The decision I have always heard is that "Registry Quality" coins can be listed here and that if they are for sale on ebay or elsewhere that should be listed in the title.

    PCGS Set Registry Forum For discussions about PCGS registry sets - building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them.

    That is the language listed by PCGS, interpret it as you will, but I think you will have trouble building a registry set without someone offering the individual coins for sale.image

    What constitutes a "Registry Quality" coin is another issue but I think most of us have an opinion and if we see average coins being offered here would speak out about it and ask that these be offered on the "Buy/Sell" board.
    (PAST) OWNER #1 SBA$ REGISTRY COLLECTOIN
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The question is a good one.

    What coins should be allowed here? Braddick collects the lowest grades possible for his "REGISTRY" set. Thus, these should be allowed to be sold here as someone has a set to place them in.

    The complete type set is very difficult to complete, so many will use circulated examples for some of the coins. Thus, these should be allowed to be sold here as someone has a set to place them in.

    So I guess, if the coin has a PCGS number and a set to put it in, it should be allowed here. So is it really clear?

    The only thing that has been clear is that some can sell all day long with no worry, while others get flamed for trying to sell one item one time.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • Mike:

    I can only take issue with you over your #3. Your MS69 coins are definitely the type that should be posted here! imageimage

    Don

    FULL Heads RULE!
  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    The only thing that has been clear is that some can sell all day long with no worry, while others get flamed for trying to sell one item one time.

    That's been my observation long before I became a Forum member. Live and let live. If you don't like it, don't read the post. If PCGS gets tired of it, let them put a stop to it.


    inneedof70s,

    No one here "owns" the Registry Forum, except PCGS. Don't worry about it. Sell away. I've bought from 6 or 7 individuals from this forum. Not all those coins have been used in Registry Sets. image Oops. I may be banned for admitting that. image
    Dan
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would suggest that you need to include Legend in your post. Your organization (clearly you are part of it) also receives a high level of visibility from this forum. You are also receiving a bit of "free" advertising. This is true of the folks you listed as well as Legend. Just dont pretend you are not receiving the same benefit. It is just a bit self serving IMHO.

    DeepCoin: Legend does not list coins for sale on this forum. And frankly, the visibility that Legend gets, deserved and undeserved, from the forum is frequently less than desirable. But that comes with the territory.....

    The dealers I illustrated to make a point have all at one time or another listed coins for sale on the chatroom. There are multitudes of dealers here that interact and become known without listing coins for sale. There are less than a dozen that actively list coins from their own inventory. It's a significant difference in philosophy that you failed to see and perhaps is the root cause of statements made previously by Laura.

    It is my impression that PCGS has at times in the past told dealers to stop treating the forums as for sale boards. Yet they allow limited selling. The whole point of my post was a request that the policy be clarified in black and white, rather than gray. If that is self serving, so be it......

  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    TDN:

    I would be pleased if you and Laura would from time to time list for sale here some of the marvellous coins in your inventory, particularly if they are new. Also, I believe once or twice Laura posted a show report on the U.S. Coin Forum. My recollection is that once recently, it contained a list of a few NEWPS, or at a minimum a link to your website showing the NEWPs. I am not complaining, but if fact found the post very useful, and I think I actually inquired about one of the pieces. So, I got first crack at a nice coin. Nothing wrong with that and I wish Legend would post coins for sale more often.

    Greg
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Greg: I suppose they should, if it is accepted by the community and allowed by the rules.
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    Yep. Join in the fun!
  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    TDN,

    I agree with Typetone. Legend has some really nice coins and the deep pocket folks here would love a first shot at some of them. Again, it is about being reasonable. I dont think any of the others have been abusing this lately. We all LOVE coins, even if we cant afford the ones you sell.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • LegendLegend Posts: 335
    For clarification:

    Legend always lists its show reports, hot topics, or new purchases on the BST board (please, go back and check), NOT the forums. Even though I may have my detractors out there, I am NOT on these boards to solict biz in any way. I am VERY uncomfortable listing ANY coins for sale anywhere but BST.

    I do NOT want people to EVER think I write here for biz reasons.

    Thanks for all the nice comments!

    Laura Sperber


    JUST SAY NO TO WANNABES! They lurk and prey on unwitting collectors in chatrooms!
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    I think it is a mistake to put reg. stuff only on the BST.
    Personally, I have never taken notice of reg. stuff posted on the BST, and probably will miss all future reg. stuff on the BST.

    Go for it! Take the plunge! Bring up the caliber of reg. coins advertised on the reg. forum!
    Take seriously the reg. forum RULES: "...building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them."
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Take seriously the reg. forum RULES: "...building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them." >>



    The rule says the discussion of selling them, not selling them. The interpretation is selling them, but no one has defined what can be sold, so far any thing can be sold on this forum as long as it fits in a registry set. The BST forum should be reserved for ebay sales, and nearly everything else is fine here (according the the RULES).
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For discussions about PCGS registry sets-

    Take seriously the reg. forum RULES: "...building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them."

    ..........i guess we each see what we want to see.

    al h.image
  • Well, what really maters here is what is tollerated by others.

    (also that with only 3 more posts this will be the most responded to on the current pages image SORRY)
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    pssst... go with the flow, and have fun... shhhh.
  • ZerbeZerbe Posts: 587 ✭✭
    inneedof70s, don't be sorry. The Registry Forum needed some stimulation. Some of these threads take flight and run in all kinds of directions. Don't be offended, it is a learning experience. image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope you all appreciate I have remained silent on this issue.

    Yes, you're welcome.

    peacockcoins

  • oh sure....untill NOW!!
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can Registry Potential coins be sold here ?...........I.E. raw coins.....image

    Ho Hum.....Yawn ....Sure wish most coin threads would get this response.

    Ken
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    inneedof70s
    I dont know how long you have been on the boards,but it's been this way for quite some time..registry quality coins are a welcome,and most threads (in my opinion) that was lost in 2 hr wasen't worth reading anywayimage.Al
  • Thank You, I've been here and there since Oct 2002. My real reason for asking the question is that the "for sale" forum is filled with

    "JUST LISTED SOME COINS ON EBAY, TAKE A LOOK"
    and
    "TTT"

    so if you want to see what's new, you have to look through pages and pages just to find a thread of interest. I didn't want to see that happen over here.

    Obviously the COLLECTERS here are of the more common sense, polite (for the most part), curtious (at least a few) type. I respect that and will try to uphold the integrity of the wishes of this board.

    I WILL NOT be putting things like my 1992-P Olympic half in MS69 for $21 on this board.
    NOR will I stoop so low as to promote my 1993 Madison half in MS69 for $31 on this board either.
    imageimageimage

    I will uphold this forums honor and maintain my sense of humor damb-it!!!!
  • Maybe we ought to talk about this. Some more, some more, some more.......imageimage
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,150 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>oh sure....untill NOW!! >>



    Indeed.

    peacockcoins

  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So... what have we decided? Is it a grey area, and we can interpret the rules however it pleases us? If so, then there is no rules governing doing biz in this forum. After all, pretty every coin that PCGS recognizes can be fit into some registry set...

    I agree with the person who, imo, correctly noted that discussing the buying and selling of registry sets is far different than actually trying to buy and sell specific coins here.

    EVP

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  • "I agree with the person who, imo, correctly noted that discussing the buying and selling of registry sets is far different than actually trying to buy and sell specific coins here.

    So, it's only whole sets that should be allowed to be listed here?!? image
    Give me a break! I'm lucky if I can afford a single coin! image
    As someone else already stated, it's pretty hard to "build" or "collect" them if you can't buy single additions or upgrades!

    Sheesh, if it wasn't for some offerings, I wouldn't have to check this forum but once a week! image

    Don

    Registry coins (those with PCGS cert. #s) and

    FULL Heads RULE!
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don,

    Let me offer examples to illustrate what I think the rules mean...

    "I have a top 5 Morgan DMPL set, should I go the auction route, consign it to a retail dealer or sell it outright to a retail dealer?" -- an example of discussing the selling of registry sets.

    "I have a '88-CC DMPL in MS65, anyone interested in it?" -- an example of selling a specific coin.

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Sheesh, if it wasn't for some offerings, I wouldn't have to check this forum but once a week!"

    Don: You are not the first (or the only) person that has said that.

    Absent this thread, we would likely be discussing opening day baseball and college basketball games this weekend.

    image

    But, this is a refreshing break from the "coin doctor", "PCGS is better than NGC" and "classics are better than moderns" threads.

    Hey Don - I viewed the Santa Clara auction lots today - not a single Wash quarter in the sale, unless I missed something!
    image Wondercoin
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  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    Absent this thread, we would likely be discussing opening day baseball and college basketball games this weekend.

    No we wouldn't. At least not here. I tried that this morning. I started a thread asking if anyone was going to attend opening day baseball, just to lighten things up a bit. It seems there's a lot of bitterness going on in this thread. Anyway, the SS got ahold of my post and sent it to the Open Forum.

    So, we talk about coins and NOTHING ELSE! OR ELSE! image
    Dan
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DAM: NO SOUP FOR YOU!!! image

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  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    That's ok. I'm not hungry anyway. I had a hotdog and some nachos at the battle of Ohio pre-season opener earlier tonight. image

    Oops! Way to go Wondercoin. You made me get off the subject of coins. I bet this whole thread get booted now. image
    Dan
  • mnmcoinmnmcoin Posts: 2,165
    What is really the big deal, you can read the title, if you don't want to see it, don't click on it. Seriously, maybe I am just an apostacy and not familiar with "ettiquite" on online forums, but sheesh, it seems like there is more post complaining about wrong posts, than wrong posts. image

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  • "What is really the big deal, you can read the title, if you don't want to see it, don't click on it. Seriously, maybe I am just an apostacy and not familiar with "ettiquite" on online forums, but sheesh, it seems like there is more post complaining about wrong posts, than wrong posts."

    Exactly image

    ROFLMAO

    Don
    FULL Heads RULE!
  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Look, get real, a big part of the whole coin collecting hobby is buying and selling. Go to any coin show. Sure there are interesting exhibits and talks, but mostly people go for the bourse. Fundamentally we love to buy and sell. Isn't that the blood of the hobby. This board is so much more fun knowing that once in a while someone will put up for sale just the coin you have been looking for, or someone else will want just the coin you are selling. That is exciting.

    Greg
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess we should just say "SCREW PCGS" and do this on the US forum too. No one sees a problem with it. PCGS wasn't even thinking when they created this site, I mean a separate board for buying and selling is stupid. We should just place it in the middle of the discussion boards. I mean, if you look up discussion in the dictionary, it says selling right there. I say get rid of the BST forum as it seems no one thinks it has a place. We should be able to sell stuff anywhere we want. This is America, we have rights to do this stuff.

    Thank god Baseball is starting so I can concentrate on an enjoyable hobby.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • MoneyLAMoneyLA Posts: 1,825
    Yikes, I get involved in reporting on how the oil/gasoline markets are being impacted by the war and when I come back to the Registry Set Forum it's deja vus all over again!!

    I thought we decided this months ago, and months before that, and months before that??

    For the record I have offered my #1 Washington Proof Registry Set here and I have bought coins for that set here.

    However, when Ive been selling "lesser material," I have correctly listed those items on the BST board where those messages belong.

    We all must use our best judgment. I think we've done a good job of self-policing.

    With that said: Im still looking to BUY PCGS proof Washingtons (1936-64) with rainbow and color toning.

    cheers, alan mendelson
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And I'm looking to buy MS68 trade dollars.......... hello....... image
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "And I'm looking to buy MS68 trade dollars.......... hello......."

    Bruce: STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED!!

    image

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  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Dbldie55:

    The practical problem with selling on the U.S. Coin forum is that things move too fast there. A good post can move off the front page in a matter of an hour. Buy/sell adds would make it impossible to keep a good thread on page one. It is much slower here. A post will say current for a day or two even if no one replies.

    Greg
  • THAT WAS MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!!
  • Wow,... 100 posts!
    Most on a thread here in a while! image

    Don
    FULL Heads RULE!
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