Shouldn't the "FOR SALE" stuff be in the "FOR SALE" forum? Sorry I brought it u
inneedof70s
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I just put some stuff in the for sale registry and came over here to look around. I would sure like to see the for sale stuff over there and the discussions about registry issues or....in this forum. Seems to just clutter up the forum when that stuff is posted in both forums.
Of course this is just IMHO.
(Donning flame suit)
But you can go look over there and see what I have for sale too
Mike
Of course this is just IMHO.
(Donning flame suit)
But you can go look over there and see what I have for sale too
Mike
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Wondercoin
I have a few extra commems that are for sale or trade for ones I don't have.
All are PCGS graded MS69
Half Dollar Commems
1992 Olympic half - $21
2001 Cap Vis half - $27
Dollar commems
1991 Rushmore - $45
1994 P.O.W - $80
1994 Vietnam - $70
1994 Women - $45
1995 Gymnastics - $75
1995 Blind Runner - $97
1997 J. Robinson - $80
1999 Yellowstone - $60
What I'm in need of are:
1990 Eisenhower
1995 Track and Field
1995 Cycling
1997 Officers
2000 Lief Erickson
PM me if you're interested.
I think he has a point. The only area where we are grey on this is if the items being sold are from a set.
I know we don't always get a chance to move the ones that should be but I guess if it get out of hand we'll have to be more strict in the rules.
Carol
Greg
you opened up the door now. stuff being offered for sale has been happening in a sneaky kind of way over on the U.S. forum a bit lately, 2-3 times in the last week. the way it goes is that talk twists and turns till "for sale" comes out and the deal is all but done in the thread and consummated either through PM or e-mail. kind of silly really. there is a forum for buying, selling, trading, swapping and even giving. why not have one exclusively for discussing?? i mean really, we all know where the sites are. why not restrict a registry site to registry discussion and sell at the sale site?
al h.
I know this question has come up in the past and I think it was decided that it could list here if it was part of a set.
For some life lasts a short while, but the memories it holds last forever.
-Laura Swenson
In memory of BL, SM, and KG. 16 and forever young, rest in peace.
It has been my experience that the Registry Forum self-polices that stuff pretty well, and offenders usually accept the reproach and stay over on the Buy/Sell/Trade.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
hey inneedof70's--------in a word, yes.
al h.
Mark: You know I was just kidding with you. Your post here the other day for a Lincoln led me to your ebay site to do a BIN on one of your other coins. I love to see your "hits"
Greg: You are correct, but, if the majority of forum members ever desire to change the rule, I will certainly abide by the new rules. If I am not mistaken, I believe the written rules/agenda for this board speak to offering out PCGS Registry quality coins.
Wondercoin
Tom
IMHO
Mike
Violations may result in the elimination of this discussion board and/or in the suspension of board privileges for offenders!"
I copied this from the EBAY Chat board. Seems right to me.
It is my VERY strong opinion that all selling should be strictly limited to the buy/sell board allotted for it. Otherwise, it creates opportunities for unspecting collectors to be preyed on.
I would hope PCGS would publish such a policy like EBAY has. If a dealer wants to solicit biz, a chat board IMHO is NOT the right place to do so. There ARE places to advertise on the web!
JUST SAY NO TO WANNABES! They lurk and prey on unwitting collectors in chatrooms!
Now there is a modern rarity!!
or post a link to them here. As long as the title of the post of the thread describes a "for sale" item I see no reason
it cannot be posted on this forum.
IMNSHO
If people want to sell, they really should do it there. These boards are for discussions, not sleezy backhanded solicitations by dealers or people who want to sell coins. My personal opinion, its plain rude to try and sell here.
Again, if you want to sell, go to the BST board. Its there for a reason. And in case you missed it: "No business please! The use of this discussion board for buying, selling or trading will not be tolerated!
Violations may result in the elimination of this discussion board and/or in the suspension of board privileges for offenders!" Is what headlines the EBAY coin Chatroom.
Maybe things would be a little different if PCGS published those rules too.
JUST SAY NO TO WANNABES! They lurk and prey on unwitting collectors in chatrooms!
At the time I think discussion was about a #1 set being offered, so PCGS was asked to create this board where not only discussion of such sets, but the selling of such sets could take place. I would think that is why Carol is mentioning coins from actual registry sets.
Obviously this has not been the case and some continue to advertise items from their inventory here.
The occasional post of high grade coins for sale on this board has always been tolerated, and usually encouraged. A lot of the top Registry Set participants check this board first, and are more likely to see the availability of the coin here before they would see it in the BST.
PCGS Registry Forum Description:
"For discussions about PCGS registry sets - building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them"
End of story!!!
<< <i>This discussion goes on about every month or so and it always comes down to
PCGS Registry Forum Description:
"For discussions about PCGS registry sets - building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them"
End of story!!! >>
That is pretty clear, NO SELLING. Only mentions discussions about selling PCGS registry sets.
<< <i>LW - How can you say that only "High Grade" should be advertised here? The registery set is only for PCGS slabs and it does not make a difference what grade the coin is in. For the modern stuff, post 1932, I don't really care about the grade, only the cost. Having a MS-64 1972 Kennedy half is all I want. Registry folks can, and should, collect what they choose.
Tom >>
I'm not telling what people should collect. How would you like these boards spammed with just everyday normal coins that you can find on ebay any day of the week? The coins that are primarily sold here are coins that have extremely low pops and are hard to find in the grades. These coins have serious interest to registry participants. Whereas the everyday you can find on ebay coins don't have interest in them, simply because they can get them whenever they like.
<< <i>I don't understand it, the BST board is only one click away. Obviously PCGS has a BST board for a reason.
If people want to sell, they really should do it there. These boards are for discussions, not sleezy backhanded solicitations by dealers or people who want to sell coins. My personal opinion, its plain rude to try and sell here.
Again, if you want to sell, go to the BST board. Its there for a reason. And in case you missed it: "No business please! The use of this discussion board for buying, selling or trading will not be tolerated!
Violations may result in the elimination of this discussion board and/or in the suspension of board privileges for offenders!" Is what headlines the EBAY coin Chatroom.
Maybe things would be a little different if PCGS published those rules too. >>
Don't forget, Laura, that you're not the only one on these boards. Many registry particpants appreciate getting first chance at top pops and rare coins here. In the BS&T forum, you'd have to constantly TTT your posts, and not too many of the top registry guys visit there.
For some life lasts a short while, but the memories it holds last forever.
-Laura Swenson
In memory of BL, SM, and KG. 16 and forever young, rest in peace.
There seems to be two sets of rules followed on this forum, one by those who gain a substantial part of their income from selling coins and those of who sell coins that no longer fit their collecting desires or are duplicates. I agree with the others who believe that coins listed for sale should be put on the B/S/T board. There are some very highly regarded forum members who restrict their selling to that board and they manage to sell some very nice coins.
I've been here for years and have rarely, if ever, witnessed that sort of conduct. Maybe ebay is a different story, especially when it is their business to have coins sold on their site for fees. Moreover, it is entirely disingenuous to suggest that sort of conduct is fine one board over - why would "sleezy bankhanded solicitations" be perfectly fine elsewhere on the site.
These offerings of PCGS Registry coins have gone on here from the beginning and Datentype's (2) postings on the front page for an OHIO(p) in MS69 and a 1984 Lincoln in MS68 are the very type of Registry coins the members have stated repeatedly should be offered here, so members can have an early shot at some very neat Registry coins.
NOW, AS I SAID BEFORE, IF A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS HERE DESIRE TO CHANGE THE WAY THREADS ARE POSTED HERE, YOU WILL HEAR NO ARGUMENT OUT OF ME. But, let's refrain from name calling or labeling actions and conduct a civil discussion of the issues. It really is no big deal - these coins do sell just as well on the BST board IMHO - posting them here was simply viewed as a convenience to many Registry collectors (as OnlyRoosies stated).
Ken
I've got my preferences set to show 40 posts on my screen. Right now this thread seems to be getting the most attention.
This happens every few months. If I'm not mistaken, the last time around it was decided to allow the sale of coins if they were for the Registry. Some follow the guidlines, some don't. Personally, I don't care! I've purchased a few coins from those advertising here. I'm not going to mention names, you know who you are. Most of the coins were added to my Registry sets, some weren't. I don't surf the different forums much. I usually stay here, but sometimes venture to the US Forum. I just don't have the time. So I appreciate the opportunity to get coins here.
The thing that I don't like and think is unfair is to allow some to sell (usually those that have been here for a while) and not allowing others that may be new or just drop by with an occasionaly list or link. If it's decided to allow the advertising of coins, with or without links, then let it be open for everyone. Not just the one's we like the best.
Just my Two Cents worth.
(See link below)
I think that any PCGS coin offered here is okay, and really don't see any harm in doing so. But that's jmho!
Don
Ken
<< <i>I
Maybe things would be a little different if PCGS published those rules too. >>
Here is the description of this forum on the home page of the forums.
This is why I said selling on this forum is a slightly grey area.
For discussions about PCGS registry sets - building them, buying them, selling them, collecting them.
1. "WHAT IS MY COIN WORTH"? I just got graded this "so and so" - what is it worth?
2. "CHECK OUT MY NEW COIN" This is often followed with comments such as "Is the coin available for sale" or PM sent.
And many more variations on a theme. You see the point
Laura, frankly I do not appreciate your comments. You rarely post here, and now you are telling us how stupid and unsuspecting we are. Try selling some overpriced stuff here and see how well you do. This is a pretty savvy lot. Much of what is sold here is top shelf modern material. By your own admission you do not understand or deal in this market. So where are serious collectors of this stuff supposed to look. About a year ago I sold a magnificent set of high end mint-state IKEs right here. I got great prices, and so far the buyers have been grateful for the material they got. Could I have gotten an offer from you for these? This Board is really one of the only places where this material can try at fair prices among knowledgeable players.
I want to keep seeing offerings of registry quality material, and plan to occassionally offer some myself.
Greg
You beat me to it... I second your comments.
Rich
A lot of top notch reg. moderns are sold here.
This board has recently gone through a HUGE arguement about moderns that revealed that there are only a couple of serious modern dealers, and many, many serious modern collectors.
These modern dealers are here, and like it. The modern buyers are here too, and they like it.
Who else deserves an opinion that is respected?
Sale of reg. stuff on the reg. forum will probably be discussed periodically, and, if you've been here long enough, you see that it has been discussed to death, but always, we come back to the original "rules" that this forum was originally based.
Remember, moderns, like all of us, are getting "less modern" each day... tic, tic, tic...
Is there a double standard? A little. If you are a frequent poster and you put up a rare for sale thread you are going to get a little more leniency than some one who's only post is to do a hit and run sale.
Wondercoin:
Have a heart, there is no way I can read all the threads so you'll have to point them out.
I have seen some of the threads you refer to but half the time people start discussing the coin and the "it's for sale" becomes less obvious.
Carol
edited for spelling
I'll bet you are!
THANKS, Carol, for restating the obvious. Why are we discussing this again???
We come here because we're interested in Registry Sets. If someone has a registry quality coin available that interests me, I WANT to know about it. I'm DELIGHTED someone will tell me about it here. I don't have to plow through pages of state quarter offerings on Buy/Sell/Trade, pay retail markups and auction fees. This is a great opportunity.
If people abuse the access, we react, and offenders usually go running when the reactions come.
The solution is NOT, and has NEVER BEEN, to ban all selling on this Board. This REALITY has been solidly and historically established by the culture of the peeple who come here. We don't need new "rules."
Save your objections for people who violate the spirit of this access.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
Carol: You do a great job over there - my point was simply that there is always a fine line between offering a item for sale outright and the "roundabout" ways to get the item out there. It is great that here on the Registry Forum we can simply offer the neat items up for sale, or buy the freshly made coins
though legend was a bit gruff in her replies, i find myself understanding her view and somewhat agreeing.........scary!! and excuse my humorous take on this, but not having time to drop the navigation bar down and jump over to the BST??
over there, over here. i guess it really doesn't matter. if i want to talk about registry stuff i come here. sometimes talk turns to prices realized at such-and-such a venue, teletrade for example. that's a bit different than advertising, i think it's kinda the spirit of what's listed in the rules link, discussing selling. who knows. i like hard and fast, have them in concrete rules. they tend to be easier to understand and obey. quasi-rules, left open to interpretation always get me cause i'm a kaniving son-of-a-gun, always looking for loopholes and finding them if i keep at it. on the other hand, if i go to the BST board i always, 100%, totally know what i'm gonna find there. no discussion to be sure.
an aside to wondercoin-----so i guess i'm not the only one who noticed the sly sales pitches at the U.S. forum!!
al h.
Does Pinnacle really pay Mark Feld to educate the masses.... or is it pretty obvious advertising?
Does Wondercoin ever miss a chance to list a coin for sale on this board?
Anaconda is in your face.... with coins that are for sale for the most part.
I'm sure there are a multitude of others, but those examples should suffice. Let's face it - it's either blatant or it's subtle, but the bottom line is that most dealers on these boards are here for a reason. And if it's not allowed, some good knowledge is lost to the community. So I say allow it, even encourage it, up to a limit.
Why not limit it to a single thread in a given time period and say anything goes in that thread? Why have unwritten rules or verbal warnings when things go too far? Should I go and post a thread a day with Legend's inventory? I've got the time and it's good exposure, so why not?
It shouldn't be a grey area - it should be obvious to all what the rules are. IS LIMITED COIN FOR SALE POSTING ALLOWED OR NOT????
I think it is black/white, but those that always sell here or those who always agree with those that sell here will disagree. So it should be clarified. But, if you do not allow selling here, then this board really has no use as it's entire beginning was based on the fact that certain people could not sell on the US coin forum.
Laura, you are correct. Of course, you only offer comment on these boards, as does Mark Feld. True up standing Numismatists who know where to sell and where to educate.
Also, why do so many think a poll of users should be used to dictate rules. It was tried on the US Forum with regard to selling (and rightfully crushed, but not by the vote). I won't even get into how this line of thinking has got our Nation into the position it is in. Those that make the rules should do so in regards of the best of the true intentions.(period) (this has been done, not complaining on how things are run just how some think it should be run)
Regards,
Wayne
Wayne
www.waynedriskillminiatures.com
Perhaps a clarification is needed.
This thread is sort of like "Iraq doesn't have weapons of mass destruction"!
Greg
That still doesn't make it right that a few dealers waltz on the baords and exhibit a gross lack of ethics. Its the dealers who I'm frusrated with-they should know better. They shouldn't act like they are another collector-they should just go to the BST board and offer to do what they really intend-SELL!
JUST SAY NO TO WANNABES! They lurk and prey on unwitting collectors in chatrooms!