A new theme for PCGS

Bear

Give me you raw, your slabbed your tempest tossed crossovers, you humble coinage

yearning to exist in a PCGS holder. Of couse in these uncertain times, you will be fingerprinted,

strip searched for AT and illegal doctoring,and will be severly graded

and held in detention for 50 days, before you are allowed to repose in the hallowed

PCGS Holder.Come send me your wretched coinage, the refuse of your overgraded and debased slabs,

I shall hold high the lamp, to guide you to our quality slabs. (Emma Lazerus Please forgive me, I know

not what I do) Bear

RGL

Bear: My you are mellow tonight. Good newps and some honey that has fermented into a fine mead, perhaps ...

ccr

What collectors called the Battle of Dealer Over-Grading is over. Hall expects that the Battle of Accurate Grading is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of collecting civilization. Upon it depends our own collecting habits and the long continuity of our sanity and paitence. Hall knows that he will have to grade our coins or bodybag. If we can send it to him, all collectors must pay a fee and the life of the collectors may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the collectors, including the dealers, including all the coins we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new bodybag, made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted Coin Doctors . Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the PCGS and its Competitors last for a thousand years, men will say, "This was their finest grade."

Adapted from Sir Winston Churchill

Bear

Well spoken CCR. Any other poets who

can turn a poem or saying into a PCGS theme.

Baley

"One score minus 3 years ago, our leading coin graders came forth in this industry, and founded PCGS, based on the premise that all coins are NOT created equal, and must be assigned numbers which represent their Quality, on a scale of 1-70, that they may be traded more consistently, if not with perfect information, then with an impartial, unbiassed, and expert opinion, now and evermore."

CYBERKEN

I think what makes Laura's presentation difficult for me is the example of the 0-for-120 guy. That sounds like his whole show (and correct me if I'm wrong): Sell every coin on the basis of a contingent upgrade. Settle the price based on the higher grade-then take back whatever doesn't bump. If you're successful 25 or 30 times (and assuming relatively expensive coins) you make back the $12K grading fee plus a profit: decent profit at 25, excellent profit at 30, etc.

All well and good, I suppose. Business is business. But it casts doubt on the concept that the dealer is "sure" that all 120 he picked out for this are "locks", and thus he's shocked when most came back same-grade. What's allowable is that he's shocked that he didn't even get enough bumps to cover the $12K, and then expresses his frustration to Laura.

Again-just a speculation on my part (an old, skeptical curmudgeon), and the situation could be not at all like I just described.

But if that's what the guy is spending his time on, I have little sympathy for him, and I doubt D.Hall does, either.

In the sports betting business he might be called a "tout".

That's a guy who calls his leads and, one-by-one, gives each a different side of a game to bet (all are "locks" you see). On Monday morning he calls to collect a commission from the winners, and they become the core of his next week's work. If he picks a couple of winners for everyone on his list over the course of a season, he starts to become a word-of-mouth ORACLE. A skilled tout can sustain his enterprise for a very long time-depending on the breaks.

The problem, of course, is that everyone knows a tout is a fraud. The key to success is keeping as few people as possible from finding out you're a tout. Keep that secret, and most will consider you an expert , and a good source for "hot tips". (It works best in sports betting, where the customers LOVE to brag about "my source".)

Are there coin dealer versions of touts? If so, can anyone spot them on a bourse floor?

Any input, positive or negative, would be appreciated and enjoyed...

Clankeye

I saw a line of bodybags
All strewn upon a field
And in each one there slept a coin
It's fate already sealed
The women wept
The children mourned
There was silence in the towns
Like puppets to the Gods they were
But men had cast them down
A weary voice was heard to say
"This grading is too tight"
But now the voice is lost to us
This whisper in the night
Tomorrow we shall try again
To send our best and brightest
Will PCGS show mercy then
Or bag them all to smite us?

EVillageProwler

Hey Clankeye,

Your poem, is that a lampoon of a Joyce Kilmer or John McCrae work?

EVP

Clankeye

EVP--

To be honest it's just something I came up with. Just a typical rhyme.
I wish I could say it had more depth to it than that.

Thanks for the good words you added to my thread earlier today, BTW.

Carl

EVillageProwler

Thanks for the good words you added to my thread earlier today, BTW.

You're welcome, I'm sure. The truth is that I haven't foggiest what you're talking about. At this time of the night, I'm completely lost as to what I did earlier on the msg boards and need more than what you wrote to jog my poor memory!

EVP

PS Obviously, I like your poem enough to compare it to two of the greats of American Poetry!

Clankeye

EVP--
I had a thread earlier about enjoying collecting. And you seconded the motion.

I appreciate the compliment on the poem.

Carl

Bear

Clank, great poem, great story this week...........please dont. have me shot next week.

nwcs

I pledge allegiance to the slab of Professional Coin Grading Services and to the registry for which it stands. One company, under Hall, in California, with certification and fingerprints for all!

RegistryCoin

Clever, to say the least. lol

VonZipper

LOL- NWCS

Maybe someone can get an amendment added to the U.S. Constitution for everyone to state this phrase before sending in coins to PCGS.

MacCoin

well I don't think PCGS want my middle grade mint state state quarter. if they did they would have somewhere near the same grading prices as oh say IGC or one of the other reasonable grading companies out there. I want my ms64+ state quarters in plasic. I'll pay the 6.00 before the 10.00 every time. PCGS need to get compairable price with the rest of the world and forget about NCG prices they are to high too.

leothelyon

Give me grading consistency or give me death!

By Leothelyon

Bear

OK, get the rope for leo. Someone find a tall tree.

Bear

Either we all grade PCGS together, or we shall certainly grade seperately.

( Was that an origonal quote by Nathan Hale that I tortured??)

The little bear

cosmicdebris

Clank and Bear great stuff.

Bear

Thank you Cosmic. I did not realize the depth of whimsical talent on this Forum.

Actually I bet there is a lot of artistic capacity around if we but tap into it.

Of course Clank has been and will always be our inspiration....................Please dont shoot

Marshall Bear in your story next week. Let me at least enjoy a beer in the Longbranch saloon, with

Ms Kitty, Dock, Festis, Sam and the rest of the Gunsmoke Gang.

Clankeye

Bear--
Next week I think we might get a walk-through of Marshall Bear's Coin Corral!

And it would be down right mean to shoot The Marshall on his own patch of land.

Clank

homerunhall

NWCS...Very cool poem...David

EVillageProwler

Ask not for whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for the crackout artists!

John "HRH" Donne

Clankeye

Hooray! I say for Homerunhall
Whose come upon the boards
To kick some azz and take some names
And still the grumbling hoards
We sing his praises from on high
In hushed tones speak his name
I only hope that if he's pissed...
Some other he might blame

EVillageProwler

I only hope that if he's pissed...
Some other he might blame

Poof! It is now raining on your back...



EVP

PS I've been watching too much Charmed lately!

Hoot

This is some of the best stuff I've read on these boards! Bear's Repose and Clankeye's Remorse... too good.

Hoot

Bear

Mares eat oats, and Does eat oats

as crack out lambs ,are led to slaughter.

Pcgs today is tough

but tomorrow, they may be tougher.

Grade em hard and grade em low

is the order of the day.

But, I would rather have them rough and ready

if only, they would be steady.

But I would rather have them rough and ready

then easy as she goes

for PCGS must be the shining light

to raise us from our plight.

Clankeye

I dreamed I saw an Elephant
A-sitting on my bed
When I blinked and looked again
T'was David Hall instead
He spoke these words quite frank to me
I will not soon forget
I have revoked your forum pass...
And yes, old Bear is next!

Bear

I hope my Forum pass

is not revoked

For little bears are cute and funny

untill they are provoked

With claw and fang

I defend my pass

untill all is calm and cool

But David Hall would not recall

this gentle Forum bear

For he still cares ,what he may hear

from the gentle little bear

on coins and grades and wisdom wide

before he tans my little hide

Clankeye

Bravo! to the little Bear
On this note I shall end
If I ever find a honey jar...
To him, I will it send

Bear