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Why I Am "Enjoying my Enjoyment" -- Appreciating the Hobby

I will try to be brief.

I collected coins as a kid then drifted away from it. What brought me back was the slabbing revolution. Got me interested again, it was new and dynamic.

I was around in 89-91 when the market exploded. At the time I collected Morgan dollars. I sent in four coins for regrade and three out of the four got a bump. It was a $15,000 hit. I was elated and my interest began to shift to commemoratives--high grade with color. I took all my "winnings" and put them in commems. At the peak of the market I spent $8000 on a slabbed 67 Stone Mountain commem. You heard right.

All that time I would look at my "collection" with confusion. Somehow it lacked meaning to me. What was I doing this for? Money? The beauty? Am I a collector or an investor? It diminished the joy I could feel in the coins.

You know the story. Market crashed. My $15,000 dollar gain became at least double that in losses. I was lucky to get half my money out of the Stone Mountain. I left collecting/investing to lick my wounds.

So why do I tell you this? Because I am happy now. Very simple. I started collecting again a couple years ago. I have very few coins, and none which I paid over $500 for. I do not have to sweat bullets about the market. The coins that I do collect have great meaning to me. I collect Washington Carver commems because they symbolize an incredible history of our country (the opening of race relations and the civil rights movement). I have started recently to collect coins of the Philippines minted in the United States, because I find the story behind them fascinating, and the designs to be stunning. I look at them a lot. I am taken with their beauty.

I feel like for the first time, I am getting numismatics right. I know what I want out of it, and I am able to participate at a modest level. This forum has added to my experience of the hobby greatly. To be able to have a give and take with fellow collectors and dealers is a good thing.

I am not writing this in any way thinking that my take on the hobby is better than, or more enlightened than anyone else's. I am writing it in part because sometimes it gets very contentious around here, and I think people start questioning why they do it. What is the purpose behind collecting these orbs?

The purpose is as different as there are people on this forum. And I just wanted to let you all know why I am enjoying this great hobby again, and offer my sincere wishes that you all are too.

Carl
Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare

Comments

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post, Carl. While my numismatic background is decidedly different than yours, I, too, have a near constant, subtle shift in my focus or interpretation of numismatics and it makes it quite rewarding for me.
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I quit worrying about my high priced slabs for a little while and went and posted like a newbie with his latest find about a minor error coin that I bought for $3 raw on eBay. I enjoy all kinds of coins. I have all kinds of coins. I enjoy them all.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Clankeye, pretty poor effort on your part, considering you started out by saying "I will try to be brief." image

    Other than that, what a great post! Who knows, this might (I repeat might) even turn out to be a thread about the joys of collecting a not a flame fest. Nah, could never happen.image
  • Clankeye---- BRIEF........whew!!!! If you call that brief, I would hate to see you editorialize something!!image

    Seriously, though..... I don't sweat over large purchases either by limiting myself to a max of about $300....The spouse would kill me, anyway. Gonna have to save up for a St. Gauden's $20 gold piece!!!

    "LIVE FOR TODAY, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE NO TOMORROW!"- DEANE

  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    Best post I've read here in a while, Clankeye. Coins are cool. There's something magical about them that has nothing to do with the number on the slab. Seldom does that concept show in a post here, but it did in yours.
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928
    A longer post than I usually like to make. But, I knew I was going to have to use a few words to get where I wanted to go.

    Tomorrow: Clankeye-the Early Years (should come in about 7000 words). image

    You've suffered enough. I will spare you.

    Carl
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    Enjoying numismatics-- what a refreshing concept! image

    Fellow collectors warn me that the coins I like to collect don't have much demand for them, but I find that a great plus! How else could I afford coins with low imtages and substantially lower surviving populations?
    image
    Obscurum per obscurius
  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    Nice thread. Enjoy the hobby. Thats what its all about.

    Brian.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    As much as I enjoy and appreciate many of the coins we see and handle, the real fun for me is getting to know clients (and on occasion, even some board members). image

    Yes, some of them/you are a pain in the butt, on occasion, but most aren't. And, I'm sure some of them, along with some or all of my previous employers, would say the same about me . image

    I love to meet collectors, learn what they like and don't like about various coins and the hobby, share stories, experiences and our mutual enthusiasm. Despite the fact that part of this is business, it is also about friendships.

    Perhaps the best part of all, though, is finding that special coin for a client - one that he or she has been searching for, for ages, thinking they might never have an opportunity to acquire it...... and then, watching their face light up or hearing that wonderful spark in their voice. It doesn't get much better than that in this hobby.





  • << <i>

    Perhaps the best part of all, though, is finding that special coin for a client - one that he or she has been searching for, for ages, thinking they might never have an opportunity to acquire it...... and then, watching their face light up or hearing that wonderful spark in their voice. It doesn't get much better than that in this hobby. >>



    Find an 1847 seated dime in MS+ condition and you can videotape the sound in my voice when you sell me the coin.

    No kidding though.....I would have to think that helping folks as you have described must be one of the best parts of your job!!!
    Go well.
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Carl,

    What is the matter with you -- telling us that we should collect to have fun?!?

    image

    Nice post! Thanks for starting a fresh thread to try to bring us collectors back on track.

    EVP

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

    I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com

  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928
    I'm going to TTT this once. And then let it go. Thanks to everyone who posted so far.

    Carl
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Clank, tell me another story. PLEEEEEAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Carl,
    Philipino coins are ugly. Please do not waste your money on them, or German thalers. I think your money is more wisely spent if you continue to focus on the Carvers. There is too much risk in the Philipinos and thalers. Carvers are a sure bet. Please stick with Carvers. They need you. Philipino coins are overpriced, inflated stuff, as are German thalers. Carvers will boom again some day, and we need an expert in them.

    I'll be happy to take the Philipinos off your hands so that you can quickly get focused back on the Carvers image
    dwood

    "France said this week they need more evidence to convince them Saddam is a threat. Yeah, last time France asked for more evidence it came rollin thru Paris with a German Flag on it." -Dave Letterman
  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I collect out of sheer enjoyment to puketh over my ngc overgraded junk and.......oop sorry...wrong thread image

    no reBUTTals accepted!

    Clank, I cried after I read thatimage




    Marc
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928
    Marc--

    I cried after I lived it!

    Carl
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I cried because I still have my Stone Mountains!
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭✭
    I cried when I told my Kennedy proofs they were orbs!

    Joe
    The Philadelphia Mint: making coins since 1792. We make money by making money. Now in our 225th year thanks to no competition. image
  • I cried when it didn't talk about slabs.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    the truth is barber quarters and halves that have pretty original color and full luster are boring and unappealing as well as terrible investments, so being the nice guy that i am, id be happy to take them off your hands as a favor to you, like the barber quarter mdwoods posted a couple of days ago.
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Coins are cool, all coins.
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • Carl, I think I'm at the point you were at 12 years ago. I also started collecting as a kid and have just recently started getting back into the hobby. I'm happy to say I'm still at a point where my coins have some meaning to me, where I don't have so many of them that I can't tell you a little of the history behind how I acquired them. But lately I have been buying more expensive coins (heck, I can afford to spend more now than when I was 12 years old), and I'm definitely getting more interested in coins in higher grades. I think the increased knowledge I've gained over the last few months has helped my appreciation of the hobby, but your post serves as a warning to me -- I need to watch out to make sure it doesn't consume me and detract from my love of coin collecting.
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>...this might (I repeat might) even turn out to be a thread about the joys of collecting a not a flame fest. >>


    I don't know about a Joys of Collecting thread, and I don't know about a flame fest, but we could have a kissy/huggy love fest for Carl.
    As much as Oreos, Clingons and Elvis...
    ...Mrs. Coinbroad, Coinalot and Clankeye have become a part of the fabric of our lives.
    Thanks, Carl. image
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928
    WACoinGuy--

    That's great! I am by no means saying that expensive coins are not worth collecting. I believe everyone must and should collect what brings them satisfaction.

    In my case, way back when, I was collecting great coins, but coins that I could not afford to keep. No matter which way the market had gone. I have had to learn to stick to some realistic guidelines for myself, to take the stress out of it, and make the experience more enjoyable all around.

    Good luck with your expanding knowledge, and wring whatever you can out of the hobby.

    Clankeye
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • So far I've been careful and haven't been buying beyond my means. I just picked up a coin that was the first one I spent over $1,000 for. It was a key date for a series, and I'm thrilled to have the coin as part of my collection, but I'm afraid if I get caught up in buying too many more $1,000 coins I'll be over the edge...
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey carl

    except for the big hit and subsequent loss our stories are quite similar. i collected out of amazement for many years, languished in semi-retirement for many more and then returned in 1999 with a hodge-podge that seemed to be going nowhere. i have better collection direction--WOWZER!!--today and enjoy looking at coins and helping out others nearly as much as building my own collection and griping at the forum!!!image

    this past winter i finally assembled some solid reference books and it's caused a quantum leap in interest and enthusiasm. i look through more coins than i used to, and now i actually have an idea of what i'm looking for. a few weeks ago i found a DD liberty nickel and last week i stumbled across a 1851/81 large cent. not big dollar coins but interesting coins. lately i've been helping the local shop-owner a lot. i have no aspirations in that direction, but i like being on the front line and getting a shot at fresh material.

    oh yeah, i picked up a nice 1946 BTW at an auction by accident. i was bidding on a grab bag for the silver bi-Kennedy and the other half just showed up!! it's a nice rim toned BU in some kind of old holder.

    you can't beat enthusiasm, can you?!?!?!

    al h.image
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    from 1 karl to another carl: T T T

    where it belongs.

    K S
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928
    Thanks for that, Karl. My enjoyment was beginning to falter just ever so slightly, but I'm feeling chipper again. image

    Carl
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare

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