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Here's My Columbian Half - Toned

LoriLori Posts: 860
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Got my Columbian Half in today. First picture is to show the stunning colors it has.

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2nd picture is to show that it is BU and has lots of ware on the hair. What would you grade it?

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I also wanted to show off my newest Morgan while I was at it.

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Lori

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  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    Wow - Lori - nice coins - That's a neat columbian! Those are very vibrant colors! Nice Morgan too!

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    Frank
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I have no idea what it would grade, but I think's damned pretty!image

    Russ, NCNE
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  • paigowjohnnypaigowjohnny Posts: 4,257 ✭
    That Columbian's tough...looks like full lines on the sails, but the hair on ol' Chris is pretty weak. Love the colors though...
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry, guys. The Columbian has had a lot work done it, and the band of color around the edge is probably not natural.

    The grade before the coin was cleaned was AU because there are circulation marks on Columbus' cheek and hair. I think that both PCGS and NGC would body bag this coin as "altered surfaces" and AT.

    Please don't shoot the messenger.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Sorry, but I agree with Bill. I think the Columbian has been cleaned, has retoned and would be body-bagged by NGC or PCGS. If you are going to shoot the messenger, please remember that Bill was the first messenger. image
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928 ✭
    I propose that both messengers be shot, as the only fair solution.image

    Clankeye

    On a serious note, Lori. I have to say I also agree with our messengers.
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • LoriLori Posts: 860
    How about a weenie roast. imageimageimage

    Lori
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK OK!!! I smell the campfire burning ...

    Seriously Lori, I don't remember what you paid for this, but if you more than $20 and if there is a return privilege you should exercise it. People should not be rewarded for charging high prices for coins like this.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I still grade it au cleaned & retoned like I did last week.
    <<<<<<to show that it is BU and has lots of ware on the hair<<<<<<<
    Very important point here; a BU coin can't have ANY wear.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well, I think it's a nice columbian half for what it is: AU, lightly to moderately cleaned, and rather nicely if somewhat artificially toned. No it wouldn't "slab" at N or P but so what? that only matters if you want sell it for a premium, if it's for your collection I think it adds a lot of interest in it's appearance for not very much money. speaking of value, I would rather have that coin than an ordinary looking MS60 if I had MS60 money to spend on a columbian, and maybe value it more than an MS63! If you like the coin its a winner, if you dont of if you change your mind, in a slab or not, it will be easy to sell, faults and all.

    by the way, same comments apply to the morgan in the other pic.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've sold some very pretty PCGS and NGC MS-63 examples of this coin for around $80. You can judge for yourself, but I don't think it's worth saving $40 when you end up with something that will never amount to much. Why not buy a nice original coin that has some future?
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know what the others wrote because as soon as I saw the image of the Columbian I felt very badly for you and knew I had to respond. I hate to tell you this, but, the Columbian looks to have substantial problems. Please keep in mind this is simply an image I am looking at but the coin looks like it was polished/cleaned and then AT. It also looks to have been AU before being mis-handled. I realize there may be some who will challenge my assesment, but, I think I'm right. Sorry.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    What do you guys think of this one?

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    It's done on a scanner, so it doesn't show as bright and vibrant as Lori's.

    Russ, NCNE
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