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anacs grading of early copper

how do you feel about anacs, and thier grading of early copper coins, such as the draped bust series. thanks.image

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  • I think they are the best grading service for early copper. image
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  • Hi, I think they can be a little harsh on their ''net'' grading. I love to buy early copper and gold coins in anacs holders.

    Mike
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have bought several anacs old coppers in no problem anacs holders and they all have made it into PCGS holders so far. They net grade copper pretty harshly. So if you run across old coppers in anacs no problem holders ( this means no net grading ) then I think they are worth the price and graded closer to EAC grades.

    Tbig
  • I dont like the way they go way overboard on using the term corroded, this makes them a waste of money IMO!
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Simply stated, ANACs grades these issues harder than PCGS.
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • CLASSICSCLASSICS Posts: 1,164 ✭✭
    thats something else i wanted to ask, if one would find one in a no problem holder, just a straight grade, that also seems to be a plus? thanks againimage
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the services are bad when it comes to grading early copper. If I had to pick one above the others it would be ANACS.

    I belong to EAC, but I'm not an EAC grading fanatic. I look at the ANA standards and think they should be followed. That puts me far more conservative than most of the slabbed coins and more liberal that the EAC hierachy. Either way early copper is not fun to buy any more.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • SpoolySpooly Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭
    I belong to EAC, but I'm not an EAC grading fanatic. I look at the ANA standards and think they should be followed. That puts me far more conservative than most of the slabbed coins and more liberal that the EAC hierachy.

    Ditto! I grade copper the same way!

    Plus... you can buy a PCGS (whatevery) AU-50 for $500!
    The same coin is graded EAC XF-45 for $500!

    Plus the grading companies will bag coins for being "cleaned".

    I have seen so many EAC Dealers selling cleaned copper it's not funny. (NOT marked or priced as a cleaned coin should be.)

    I will pass on the "sub-sect" grading standards.... stick to ANA standards and judge the price for myself.

    I have crossed alot of early copper...ANACS seems to cross at the same grade 90% of the time..... now NGC you will take a 1 point hit about 50% of the time.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Plus... you can buy a PCGS (whatevery) AU-50 for $500!


    The same coin is graded EAC XF-45 for $500!

    When I find a PCGS early copper coin in an AU-50 that I would grade EF-45, I usually jump on it if the price is somewhere within reason. The last PCGS early copper I saw, a 1795 large cent (S-76b), was graded EF-45. It had been smoothed to remove corrosion, cleaned and recolored all for $1,800 wholesale. I would not have paid $1,000 for it.

    Collectors just don't realize how hard it is to find decent early copper, and how much you have to pay for it when you do. Forget Trends; forget the Gray Sheet. Get ready to pay Trends TIMES some factor if you find a nice smooth attractive example.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Bill Jones is right, and ANACS copper is solid for the grade. They are not afraid to net grade.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • CLASSICSCLASSICS Posts: 1,164 ✭✭
    thank you everyone for your input, and bill i agree with you, forget graysheet not only with the early copper but with any of the old type in higher grades with any kind of eye appeal.imageimage

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