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Trivia: Can you name a coin Series that does NOT have a Key Date?

braddickbraddick Posts: 24,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
The 1909-SVDB. The 1916-D Mercury. The 1932-S Washinton. Each of these are Key Dates for their Series. Can you name a Series of U.S. Coins that doesn't have a Key Date?

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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    If you discount FBL on Franklin halves, then I would say Franklin Halves.

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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    The 49s is considered a key date in Frankies, I would say the new Sac dollar.
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  • everything has a "key" date but Jefferson Nicks - key date 50-d 5 bucks in good. Franklin Halfs - key date - 55 $5.50 in good.
  • In avg circ Barber halves really have no key (better dates but no key)
  • JamericonJamericon Posts: 438 ✭✭✭
    Barber half dollars.
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  • Jamericon you gots to be a little quicker on the trigger when your up against quick draw McGraw.
  • Roosevelt dimes have no real key dates other than errors.

    Frank
  • The 49s is considered a key date in Frankies, I would say the new Sac dollar.

    I think she just likes saying " SAC dollar"
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was thinking Roosevelt dimes too. The Sacawagea has the Goodacre to content with ("mintage" 5,000) and maybe the 75,000 mintage mil set coin.
    Franklins? I did always think of the 49-S as a Key, but maybe it's really semi-key date status?

    Of the Kennedies? The 70-D is the tougher (unless you're looking at Date Rarity), but is it a Key date? I don't think so really.

    -Any other Series?
    (I collected a set of Barbers and it seemed the 97-S was a tough coin.)

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  • SBA's ??? If there is a key, does anybody actually look for it ???
  • For all modern series, those 82 and 83 P & D's can be hard to find because of the lack of mint sets.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SBA 1979 Wide Rim, but good point- that's a variety, not a Key Date.
    Keith- I challenge you to walk into any coin shop with the big binders full of coins and NOT find those two Kennedies. Sure, they're somewhat tough in high grades, but anything in MS64 is easily found.

    (Oh, and Keith- Hartlandman is looking for you RIGHT NOW, as we speak, over on the Open Forum. Oh, and Michael Dixon doesn't care.)

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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Sacagaweas for sure. SBAs for second.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    I'm not as up on the 3 centers, but what about 3 cent coins?
  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    Roosevelt dimes

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  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    & SBA's

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  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    & Kennedy Half Dollars

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  • TheNumishTheNumish Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    Eisenhower Dollars

    On the Kennedy Halves the 1997 silver proof is expensive. I guess you could consider that a key date.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everything from the 19th century is off the table.

    Among the three cent pieces, the 1877 in the Nickel Three Cent series is a key date. Also the coins from 1884 to 1887 are all tough, especially so if you want busines strikes.

    Among the silver pieces, anything after 1862 is a key date, especially if you want as a business strike and not a Proof.
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  • A case can be made for the Roosevelt dime series, ya there is the 49s and the 50s about $30 in BU, but comparitively I would say that those two dates don't stick out like a true key date, like the 09s vdb, or the 32 s&d, etc.

    The Franklin series has the 49s in circ, and the 49d in BU. The sba series has both the 79s and 81s type 2 proof, the ike series has the 73s silver (again comparitively is the key date, but just not like the vdb 09s or 32 d or s) The jefferson nickel has the 39d around ten bucks in circ, compared to most everything else at 5-10 cents in circ.

    So I would say the true series is definitely the 'sac dollar' although I am sure before they [us mint] is done with it, they will somehow create some sort of key date.

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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Barber halves don't have any dates that are considered a Key date like the 1916-D merc or the 1909-S VDB that specialists really focus on. It does have a very rare error coin the 1892-O micro O with 20-25 known specimens.

    In cleaned condition any barber half can be found with some searching. In nice original condition, all but about 10 dates turn into scarce key dates!

    for me the whole series is a Key date

    Tyler
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    All clad coins.
  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    nwcs,
    Try to find an 1868 MS 3CS.
    Incidentally. If any on the forum have a nice example of an MS65 or better that needs a new home let me know.
    Trime
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    The Flying Eagle Cents 1856-1858 Regular Strikes series has no key date since the 1856 coin is not an authorized coin( it is officially a pattern), the law authorizing the strike of the coin went into effect after the 1856 coin was produced according to the Red Book.
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  • The Flying Eagle Cents 1856-1858 Regular Strikes series has no key date since the 1856 coin is not an authorized coin( it is officially a pattern), the law authorizing the strike of the coin went into effect after the 1856 coin was produced according to the Red Book.

    58/57 overdate is a key for the series. image
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Does the Kennedy half have a key date?
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  • Braided Hair half cents have no key dates, all are about the same price.
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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    The 1999 SBA in PR70DC has a pop 13, so from the Registry point of view that sure is a key.

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  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    Well if you count overdates, but that is only $72.00 in goog condition, how about the Draped Bust Dollars 1795-1803 Regular Strikes serie, I do not see a key. (or every coin is a key in MS)
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,193 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 1999 SBA in PR70DC has a pop 13, so from the Registry point of view that sure is a key. >>



    That's GRADE RARITY. There is a strong distinction between Grade Rarity and Key Dates.

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  • MacCoinMacCoin Posts: 2,544 ✭✭
    Sacs and they will be lucky to have many more dates
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  • No such thing, every series has a coin that has something special!
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  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    No such thing, every series has a coin that has something special!

    And would you mind pointing out this special (KEY) coin for the clad series? Some are rarer than others, but none are really key coins and all can be found with ease.

    Varieties don't count.
  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    Would the 96W dime be considered a key?
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    What about early silver commemoratives, is there a key date for them?
  • Any series I personally collect has no key dates. I only have holes where key dates ought to be.
    Buy the coin...but be sure to pay for it.
  • How about Capped Bust Half Dimes?
    a short series but no toughies in circulated cond.

    Joe
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    Would the 96W dime be considered a key?

    A $5 coin with a mintage in the millions?
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    What about early silver commemoratives, is there a key date for them?

    The Hawaiian is considered the key.


  • << <i>Does the Kennedy half have a key date? >>



    I think most would consider the 1970 D Kennedy to be the key.

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  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    Can a TRUE "key coin" be something like a 1970-D Kennedy half or a 1950-D Jefferson nickel that can be had for a few dollars and purchased by the roll all day long?

    I don't think so. To me a KEY coin is one that is scarce or rare, costs a fair amount of money, and is highly desired by all that collect that series. I don't think any of these cheap coins that just happen to have lower mintages can qualify.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's no doubt possible that the term key date will evolve to include coins like an '82 NMM
    dime or an MS-65 '69-D nickel. Though obviously a new term may be coined
    Tempus fugit.
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Obviuosly, you folks who said barber halves are not familar with the 92-0, 92-s and 97-s.
    I would consider each of these key-date coins in lower grade.

    And franklin half's in Ms-65, How about the 49-d even in non-FBL is still up there???

    All you folks hollering about the 56 FE, Yes technically it was originally intended to be a pattern, but for many years it has been recognized as being required to have a complete set of FE/Indians. A lot of these coins went into circulation during the civil war era for commerce. (Whether or not the 56 FE is or is not, it is consider the king of the small cents, and I am glad I own one of these great coins!!!!!).
  • BruggsBruggs Posts: 449 ✭✭
    Every series has a key date(s) in it. The date with the lowest mintage is usually considered the "key" of that specific series. Some series the key may be quite common while others the key may be virtually unobtainable.

    Bruggs
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    Bruggs, if it is common then how can it be key? Doesn't key indicate the hardest to obtain? Mintage frequently has nothing to do with rarity.
  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    That's GRADE RARITY. There is a strong distinction between Grade Rarity and Key Dates.

    Braddick, have you been reading the boards lately? Grade rarity is the alpha and the omega here. There is nothing it does not overshadow. image
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  • Bruggs, if it is common then how can it be key? Doesn't key indicate the hardest to obtain? Mintage frequently has nothing to do with rarity.

    If that logic holds, is a 16-D Mercury Dime more key than a 1909-S VDB?
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  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
    As for all of those that have indicated that the SBAs do not have a ket date, this is true for the MS sets but not for the proofs.

    I would have to say the 79 & 81-S Type IIs are key dates/varieties in that series.

    Just my 2 dollars.

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  • I think Joejoe2000 has a very good candidate. If you stay out of the die varieties the capped bust half dimes only has 9 coins, all of similar availability and price. It is a neat early 19th century set that can be put together without breaking the budget of almost any collector in VF. Even in AU it would be affordable by most collectors.

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