A bodybag day!

MICHAELDIXON

First of all, I'd like to start by saying I use 4 different services. I use PCGS for types, NGC for modern, ICG for my Mercury set and SEGS for varities and low dollar coins.
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I'm one of these people who buy the coin and not the holder. Regardless of the holder, if the coin has exceptional eye appeal and is graded (in my opinion) correctly, I'll purchase it.
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Today, I received 5 coins back from NGC. Of the 5, 1 was returned as AT. It came out of a PCGS holder. It is definitely not AT, and, I guess NGC is being tough on toned coins at the present.
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Many of you know I collect BU Mercury dimes. My Mercs are all in ICG holders, because I like the design of the holder. Well, out of 5 cracked and sent in, this is how they fared:
#1. 1940 D originally in an NGC MS67FB holder. ICG graded MS65. They were tough on this one and the second 1940 NGC Merc which they have downgraded! This coin is gorgeous and I can't see a 65!
#2. 1943 originally in an ANACS MS67 holder. ICG bodybagged for altered surfaces.
#3. 1943 originally in a PCGS 67 holder. ICG holdered as MS67.
#4. 1943 raw. Toned. ICG bagged for AT.
#5. 1945 Micro S originally in a PCGS MS66 holder. ICG holdered as MS66.
Of the 3 micro s coins I bought off the boards and Ebay, I felt only this one had an actual shot at 66.
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I guess I'm just venting!

CarlWohlforth

I would have never guessed ICG would be that tough with your coins. I guess seeing all the PR 70 modern coins they grade makes me think they overgrade everywhere...

rkfish

MD,

That's a tuff day at ICG! A NGC67FB now in a 65 holder.....whew! Not a good way to start a Monday!

Clankeye

My sympathy, MD. Next monday just take your money and go to a casino.

airplanenut

<< <i>Of the 5, 1 was returned as AT. It came out of a PCGS holder. It is definitely not AT, and, I guess NGC is being tough on toned coins at the present.
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THat would, uh, be my Toned ASE

Mike said he'd take her to Baltimore to give the services another shot

dorkkarl

i've had a tough time getting a handle on icg. recall my thread where they graded a proven polished/doctored anacs-8 bust dollar as f-12, yet it sounds like you had an opposite experience.

K S

pontiacinf

wowsier


dats not fun at all

BillJones

I won't mess with ICG.

It's really hard to get decent money for coins in their holders because of all the overgraded stuff in ICG that is out there. If you like the coin and it's dirt cheap, OK. Otherwise I'd stay away.

Why volunteer to put your coins in holder that has no market traction at all?

airplanenut

Bill- I know the answer, so I'll answer for Mike

The ICG holder looks better to him with his mercs in it- so he uses their holder. He doesn't care about the #1 registry and won't be selling the coins, so he is doing what is most appealing to him- like if someone used an airtight vs. a coinworld slab because they thought one was more aesthetically pleasing...

As for my ASE... well...

wallstreetman

All I want to say is, if you like giving $ away, send some my way! Why would anyone trade those PCGS holders for ICG? I would guess you found some overgraded coins in PCGS holders!

flaminio

<< <i>I would guess you found some overgraded coins in PCGS holders! >>



Is that how it is now? It's impossible for one to believe that ICG actually does know how to grade a coin, therefore the PCGS one must have been overgraded to begin with. Sheesh.....

merz2

Michael
I'm shocked,that would be a really tough day for you.The king of crackout.