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I think smart people collect coins.

I'm always amazed at the wisdom and depth of numismatic knowledge on the boards. But more than that, you all seem to be intelligent people! What is your level of education?

I have a Master's of Science.

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  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    CD
    Check the thread what everyone does.That should answer for most.
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    I attended North Polar University where I majored in Arts and Crafts...

    No...really just an ordinary High School guy and a self taught lover of coins.
    A thing of beauty is a joy for ever
  • the big question is: why aren't there more women in the hobby?

    i can't think of a hobby that could appeal to women that enjoy collecting in general more than coins.
    image
  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    Cointageous:
    Thats a great question: I often also wonder why more women don't collect coins.

    Brian.
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmm......In 50+ years the Big Question has been, Intelligence or Common Sense. Which is the More important ?

    Oh yes a College Drop Out. Women and Cars were more important at the time. image
  • Karen - I think what the guys (and gals if there are any) are trying to say is that education/success/and niceness quotient aren't ALWAYS related image

    Frank
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    I too have a Masters degree, but I believe there's a big difference between "smart" and well educated (as demonstrated by the people on this forum).
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I think it was David Bowers, but I could be mistaken, did a study of the intelligence of coin collectors and discovere that they tend to be very intelligent and interestingly enough live longer lives on average. Collecting he surmised, was a nice outlet from the daily grind, a way to intelligently direct your energies. I have an MBA from IU, but I worked for a bank president who struggled through high school, but could sell you a high priced coin in an ACG slab. image Or least he would try.
  • Here`s the link that merz2 was talking about.

    What do you do for a living?

    I fell about 30 credits shy of a AS in Mathematics. Funny how some things in life work out. At the risk of sounding like a crybaby, Life has alot of things that you didn`t expcect. At least thats true for me. Why I didn`t go back? Too personal of a question for me to answer. Ditto with where I work.

    It`s an interesting statement, judging from the link, above average IQ is something alot people on this seem to have. Wisdom - That usually comes as we get older.

    << <i>depth of numismatic knowledge >>

    - That too usually comes from reading and talking with people like on this board. So reading and having good people skills do have a factor in how much you know. So "smarts" is more than an intrinsic, in-born ablity --- Its what you do with it to help other people. Thats what is important to me.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Does it count that I used to be in Mensa till I decided they were too weird for me?


  • << <i>Does it count that I used to be in Mensa till I decided they were too weird for me? >>



    Better then being in Densa and realizing there talking over your head.
  • RNCHSNRNCHSN Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    2 Assoc degrees, 1 in bus. admin. the other in Nursing.
  • jharjhar Posts: 1,126
    A BS in Computer Science. 12 years Driving AS/400's

    Go Big Blue!!!!
    J'har
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Marketing and law degrees for me, but I have been involved in the rare coin business, full time, since I graduated law school in 1979.
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    I received my B.S. in Mechanical Engineering.

    Tom
    Tom

  • B.S. Petroleum Engineering
    "spare change? Nahhhhh...never have any...sold it all on E-bay..."
    see? My Auctions "Got any 1800's gold?"
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭
    I don't know. Does it make sense to spend exorbitant amounts on little mashed out pieces of metal? Spend months researching what pair of dies mashed out a particular piece? Find one you like and then start looking for a nicer one? Intelligent yes, smart ....image
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • I think it's more of a matter of having to have money to coin collect than it is education. USually your smarter people make more money.
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    Wondercoin started a thread a while back where over 100 members discussed their backgrounds, including level of education. Link


  • << <i>Intelligence or Common Sense. Which is the More important ? >>





    << <i>education/success/and niceness quotient aren't ALWAYS related >>





    << <i>there's a big difference between "smart" and well educated (as demonstrated by the people on this forum). >>



    All of you are right, of course. I was just thinking (late at night last night) that it just seems that you all are are smarter than the average bear (including, of course, Bear--he's much smarter than the average bear!). Of course, I know education and "smarts" aren't always correlated...just lead me in to a question. Sorry I duplicated the other thread. Like I said, it was late at night! image

    Anyway, I'm still impressed by all youse people, whether its book-learnin' or otherwise!
    image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I didn't graduate from the 8th grade.

    Russ, NCNE
  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Phi Beta Kappa, working on Bachelor's in Computer Science. Still maintaining a 4.0 average.
    C. D. Daughtrey, NLG
    The Lincoln cent store:
    http://www.lincolncent.com

    My numismatic art work:
    http://www.cdaughtrey.com
    USAF veteran, 1986-1996 :: support our troops - the American way.
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  • cascadecascade Posts: 151 ✭✭
    Lots of classes, no degree. Hmmm, maybe its time to follow a curriculum..
  • TheNumishTheNumish Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    Just for the record I collect coins and am not smart. I'm one of the unheard majority with just a 100 IQ.

    That raises another question. If the average IQ is 100 that would mean most people have an IQ right around 100. Why is it when anyone ever states their IQ it always seems to be 120 and above? I've never heard anyone say their IQ is 100. Well my IQ is 100 and I'm proud to be average! image
  • new person here, female, finished A.S. nursing at Loma Linda U. but got my Phd in the school of hard knocks long before then. I am almost never a nurse unless I <i> HAVE </i> to... I prefer to make a living with photogrpahy, buy/sell stuff, train dogs and horses, whatever else I can do to avoid taking a nursing job.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just for the record I collect coins and am not smart. I'm one of the unheard majority with just a 100 IQ. That raises another question. If the average IQ is 100 that would mean most people have an IQ right around 100. Why is it when anyone ever states their IQ it always seems to be 120 and above? I've never heard anyone say their IQ is 100. Well my IQ is 100 and I'm proud to be average! image >>

    Numish, I like the way you think. All those numbers, big or small, make very little difference. Where the big deal is, is what a person has on the inside. Some of the lesser educated people in this world have made some of the biggest changes to it (both good and bad). Perhaps a big IQ is a way to make an otherwise boring person stand out in some way.

    BTW. I have no clue what my IQ is, do they use negative numbers?image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why is it when anyone ever states their IQ it always seems to be 120 and above? >>



    For the same reason that every guy is a 6' 6", 225lb filthy rich karate champion who drives a porsche, and every gal is a 5' 10" buxom blonde super model. It's an internet thing.

    Russ, NCNE
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why is it when anyone ever states their IQ it always seems to be 120 and above? >>

    Some may have read the wrong line image In the end, it doesn't really matter. Character and a generous nature are far more important and useful than raw information storage/retrieval. And creativity is not related to intelligence. Creativity is dependent on experiences and clever connections between them.

    Neil
  • Yes, mostly an intelligent bunch, but sadly, there are exceptions! Remember it's not the white hat that's pointed, it's the head inside! (Mercifully, I think the hate thread got killed, thank you administrators).
    Joe
  • I'm a high school dropout with an AS in electronics and I was just a few credits short of one in Computer Science, and one in Chemistry. Interestingly I did earn an AS in Chemistry for someone else. They paid me to attend class as them. I considered doing the same thing in order to get through the public speaking course that was the main stumbling block on my Computer Science and Chemistry degrees. If I had tried one more time to finish them I probably would have. (I took the public speacking course five times and never could get through it.) I'm actually mostly self educated though, I read everything.

    I've taken several IQ tests over the years, scores have ranged from a low of 149 to a high of 183.
  • Hey Russ, I don't drive a Porsche! image

    In my experience in life (experiment still ongoing!) formal education has little to do with intelligence or success, though it's of course required for some professions.

    In a former job managing Software Engineers, I hired a guy who had no formal training, didn't even know the computer language that I needed, and in fact was loading airplanes for a living.

    I hired him on the basis of what he had accomplished on his own initiative, and to this day he is one of the sharpest minds and best engineers that I've ever worked with.
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    I'm a college dropout, but am also impressed by the sharp minds here.

    Sidenote: many of the finest Indian Head collections, past and present, have been owned by doctors. I have no clue why since income plays a larger role in many other series. Three collectors I met at the Showdown are doctors, the owner of the all time finest collection is a doctor, and a fellow I know of with a monster IH proof collection is also a doctor.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I ain't got much book lernin' but have seen that most collectors and dealers have IQ's
    in excess of 110. Intelligence in adults isn't nearly so important as the ability to use
    their knowledge in a useful manner. This is where we collectors truly excell. Most of us
    can think our way out of a paper bag and have enough common sense not to get into
    one in the first place.

    There is some correlation between intelligence and education and a lot of correlation
    between educational level and income/wealth. There is surprisingly little correlation be-
    tween intelligence and wealth.
    Tempus fugit.
  • Intelligence in adults isn't nearly so important as the ability to use their knowledge in a useful manner.

    Darn... I am sure that is true. I'm also sure that stranded on a desert island, I would not be able to even reinvent the can-opener. There is however, a particular primitive joy that comes with being aware of one's uselessness. Like a small dog, with it's head out the window, biting at the air, in a speeding car.
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    I agree, the smart cats collect coins.... Lucy has a BS in DooWopology and a Masters in Rockabilly! You know it kids!
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • At the risk of life and limb, at this point should I speculate that the observation conclusion of this thread and the question as to why more women don't collect coins may be related? Pardon me while I do find a nice safe bunker to hide in. image


  • << <i>Pardon me while I do find a nice safe bunker to hide in >>



    Hey, while you're there, say hi to Andy Rooney!
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Paul,

    I have a theory about your comment:

    << <i>Sidenote: many of the finest Indian Head collections, past and present, have been owned by doctors. I have no clue why since income plays a larger role in many other series. Three collectors I met at the Showdown are doctors, the owner of the all time finest collection is a doctor, and a fellow I know of with a monster IH proof collection is also a doctor >>



    I think the answer is because RD copper is worth so much more than RB or BN, it is more likely to be "doctored" by "coin doctors" image


  • << <i>Pardon me while I do find a nice safe bunker to hide in. >>



    Annie Get Your Gun!!!

    Sorry, I could resist that.
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Touché Mark image
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a BS in accounting from the University of Delaware and an MBA from Rutgers.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    B.A., Political Science and Far Eastern Language and Civilizations from University of Chicago.

    J.D. from NYU School of Law.

    But that's schooling, not education.image
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    Hi,

    I have earned these degrees:

    B.S. Electrical Engineering
    M.S. Electrophysics
    Ph.D. Electrical Engineering

    All from Brooklyn Polytechnic.

    I went a little wayward for the masters. Won't happen again


    -JamminJ
  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    I have a A.A. in General Ed. and a B.S. in Accounting.

    I have no idea what my IQ is. How do people find this out?
    Matt
  • They take an I.Q. test! I came out a Visual Mathmatician at 134, I excelled in spatial reasoning! If you dont see it, type Ultimate IQ Test under search, its not the Personality one! I see it now, its under Phd certified, to the right of your screen. I was sent a link to the exact test, so I didnt have to find it!
    You can fool man but you can't fool God! He knows why you do what you do!
  • Well, it took me a long time, but I finally earned a BM in Music Composition from Willamette (OR) University in May 2002 and now I'm working on
    a Masters in Music (composition or theory-provided I pass a couple of ear training tests!) at San Diego State.

    I am able to collect coins because:

    1) I have a disability which restricts certain activities but does provide me some income.
    2) I can read and write a bit.
    3) I was turned on to coins at a young age.
    4) I don't blow my money on other things like, oh, gambling (used to but not since '94-unless you include coins!),
    drinking (used to but been sober 8 years), and other stupid stuff.
    5) I'm 41 and have found a nice hobby to complement my musical endeavors.
    6) I enjoy conversing with and sometimes meeting you all.

    Thanks,
    barn
    Nicht mehr Münzen-für jetzt!
  • JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    Hi Flash,

    As to how you find out what your IQ is, my wife tells me:

    "There are a number of standardized tests, usually administered by psychologists. These tests yield three major scores: A Full Scale IQ, which breaks down into a Verbal IQ (tasks that involve spoken language) and a Performance IQ (tasks that involve motor skills). An average score is 100.

    These are not usually elective assessment procedures. Often times, an IQ test is part of a battery of tests that is administered for very specific purposes: academic query, outcome research, after a traumatic brain injury, etc."

    As you might guess, my wife is a psychologist. She made me take the test. It was not electiveimage.

    -JamminJ
  • I have a B.S. in Chemical Engineering and a B.S. in Pharmacy both from the University of Hard Partying (University of Colorado). I can't believe I made it out of school with my brain still in tact. Thank goodness I was just serious enough to graduate with a solid 3.0 GPA! I do collect coins but I am only slightly smarter than a really smart Chimp.
  • B.S. Auburn University [chemistry] then M.D. University of Alabama
    Yes, I do have Indian cent collections circulated in old coin boards.
    Collect for enjoyment
  • BA in Economics from Penn State University. I too value a lot of other qualities in humans, i.e. how they use their intelligence, if they are kind, generous, and other characteristics.

    btw, I have a circ. IH collection in Whitman folders.
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