How much is this U.S. coin worth (w/ Attachment)? 1799 / 13 stars

Steele404

See the attachment

Sorry, but i am totally new with this kind of stuff and would like to know how much does this US, 1799, 13stars worth? and is it made from Silver? is there a technique to know what is it made of (ie. silver)?

thanks

goose3

hi there!

I could be wrong but I think it might be a copy.
several bucks if that is so.

nwcs

Welcome to the board! What you have appears to be a copy so I don't know how much it's worth.

kieferscoins

Counterfeit. If you weigh it, it will be underweight, and this piece exhibits the lack of detail in the hair and eagle seen on nearlly all the cast or spark erosion counterfeits.

Cameron Kiefer

Steele404

what is a copy ??

nwcs

Oh, as far as techniques go. There are several. The easiest, but not foolproof, is a specific gravity test. Silver has a very specific value to it. But other combinations of metal have the same value. Another way is through an electron microscope that scans a micron or two under the surface and the spectrograph will reveal the metal content. The mint has always been very close to tolerances on their coins, so weighing the coin to the hundredth of a gram and measuring its attributes and comparing it to mint standards is a good step in authenticating a coin.

kieferscoins

Read This webpage.

A copy is a reproduction (fake).

Cameron Kiefer

nwcs

I'd like to see the edge. This coin has the look of an electrotype copy.

Steele404, when we say it is a copy we mean it is not an authentic US coin. We mean it was created as a souvenir or to deceive. (there are legitimate fakes as well as devious ones)

Steele404

OOOoooo ... I get it now..

u must be a real pro in this.... to identify it as a copy

anyways,, thanks a lot

kieferscoins

Stay on the forum and learn. Coin collecting is alot of fun, and you can do it from your pocket change.

Cameron Kiefer

nwcs

Great link Cameron, this is "Coyote"

its4real

hey - that was nothing - stick around and you'll learn some REALLY amazing things!

dorkkarl

1 of the most common copies, worth about $1 as a novelty.

K S

littlewicher

Here's a real one for comparison. As you can see, your coin is a copy.

KlectorKid

if u look on lil'wicher's scan u can tell that the hair doesnt look right, or the rest of her for that matter.

Russ

<< <i>u must be a real pro in this.... to identify it as a copy >>



Does this smell funny to anybody else?

Russ, NCNE

KlectorKid

i dont smell anything funny, i smell chicken Parmasian MMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

littlewicher

I just had dinner. I had a lovely Honey Mustard Chicken breast over a wonderful terriyaki vegetable medley. Well, back to coins........ I'm not a pro by any means and still thought the coin looked funny. I've seen that exact same copy somewhere else before.

KlectorKid

i wouldnt consider my self a pro But bust/seated coins are my area of expertiz plus i must have seen 10 of the exact same copies. steele did u buy this coin? if so how much? and from who?

Clankeye

Russ---
To answer your earlier question "does this smell funny to anyone else?".... Oh, yes indeed. It does to me.
Clankeye