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eBay laziness. Are you feeling it?

braddickbraddick Posts: 23,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
It's getting now where I see a coin I may want, but if the seller doesn't take on-line payments (Billpoint or Paypal) I will pass. It isn't that I'm looking for the extra protection these services offer (off your CC), but instead, admittingly, it's just a form of laziness on my par! I just don't want to hassle getting a MO or Cashier's Check.
My favorite auction is one where the BIN is a great price, and I can instantly pay right after closing the auction out with that BIN and a few days later, there's the coin.

Man, talk about lazy...

peacockcoins

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  • Not for me. I love waiting in line for money orders.image You get to stand there with a wad of cash in your pocket and watch everybody get their mail from the PO boxes.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I agree! It's easier to click click & send a PayPal than it is to print an envelope & invoice, write a check or try to make it but the PO by 4:30 buy a MO and find a stamp and mailbox and mail it.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, I noticed how lazy bidders areimage, so I broke down, opened up a new checking account and started accepting Paypal.

    Russ, NCNE
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    I just got a box of checks printed with my PO Box address. I don't need to go get a money order since they won't know my real address off my check.

    Selling over eBay, I've had two instances where the buyers were within walking distance of my house! image Many more are a few minute drive from me.
  • PushkinPushkin Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭
    Agreed, its a lot easier. But I stopped using PayPal about three weeks ago. A horror story, that makes waiting in line at the post office on a Monday morning the day the Social Security checks arrive while half the populaiton of town is sending Christams packages to the five contintents look like a walk in the park.image

    So, enjoy the ease of online payments - but if your PayPal number comes up, you'll get down on your old wrinkled knobby knees and thank all the gods of the universe that there is an alternative to those electronic, scum sucking, braindead zombiesimage

  • I don't need to go get a money order since they won't know my real address off my check.

    If someone knows my real address, no big deal to me. Not like there are a lot of Dagen's running around Texas. I don't keep coins lying around the place, and I have multiple forms of security in place, including those traditional Texas methods of home defense.
    Keith ™

  • I also have noticed that the Sellers are getting lazy too. Some of them are starting to accept ONLY online payments. Some Sellers have also quit accepting credit cards from Paypal - or they charge an additional fee on for that.

    I generally just have Paypal take the money straight from my checking account so that I don't have to keep money in the actual PP account. I have heard horror stories about Paypal, but have never had in problems in several years of using them, but don't keep money there just to be on the safe side. Would like to hear about Pushkin's experience mentioned here as well.

    I also agree about the hassle of mailing checks/MO. I personally just use a check (if not using PP) and wait the extra time if need be - unless I am in a big hurry to receive the item purchased. Most Sellers will go ahead and mail purchased item if you ask them too, if you have good feedback - and bring it to their attention. Since I live in the boonies, there are no lines to stand in at post office, but they close for lunch, close at 4 PM and are not open on Saturdays, which is a big pain.

    One added comment: I refuse to buy from Sellers who have inflated shipping costs.
    New to this forum, but not new to eBay ........

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  • Hey Russ,

    I resemble that remark!

    Clark
    NMFB ™

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  • When all you buy is common junk that will always be available, it's all right to do as you're doing.
    If you're into rare varieties and see one not listed as such by the seller, or find a rare coin at a very good price, then passing because of the sellers payment requirements is pretty dumb.
    It's really not all that much trouble to buy a money order if that's what the seller wants.

    Ray
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Pushkin,

    The manifold problems at Paypal is precisely why I opened a new checking account that is dedicated only to accepting Paypal payments. It has no money in it, and any that comes in to my Paypal account is immediately swept in to the checking account, and withdrawn. The credit card I linked to the account is also dedicated to Paypal and is very low limit.

    They could go completely insane, drain all 10 millions users, and get practically nothing from me.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Clark,

    In your case it wasn't laziness, it was encouragement.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • I very much love being able to use PayPal, or seller's that let you call up and finish the transaction with a credit card right there. I am a bit wary of both, though. And try to deal with people or companies that have a track record. Winning an auction (or completing a transaction with a board member) and having the coin in two days is a thing of beauty. I also find that I am using the BST board to good effect and avoiding selling on eBay all together lately.
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • PushkinPushkin Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭
    Russ,

    You are absolutely right, it is the only way to go with PayPal. As you said, open a separate, small balance checking account and a very low credit limit credit card, and shift your funds fast.

    I won't go into all the gory details of my experience because, for one thing, nobody would believe most of it, I still sometimes think it was a nightmare and not reality image. Long story made short:

    Filed complaint against fraudulant seller - all supporting docs, etc. What does PayPal do, FREEZE my account! Talked to a series of frontal labotomies, zombies, robots disguised as humans at PayPal "CUSTOMER SERVICE"image..... and got a multitude of different and unbelievable stories (Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits rolled into one). Bottom line, I wasted hours, listned to hours of elevator music on the telephone (yes, it is possible to get to paypal on the telephone - just not to a human being), received emails that were crazy enough to get the senders committed - they were punishing me for filing a complaint! If you think I'm nuts, OK, but the experience nearly did drive me crazy. The SELLER - absolutely nothing happened to himimage.

    Note: until this experience - PayPal had worked wonderfully - they really suckered me in.image
    The convenience is enticing, but would I really want to do business with that company again - NO, NO, NO!
    Just one fool's experience.


    EDIT:
    Thank you for your attention - a PM just arrived suggesting I go pet the cat. Good idea.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Pushkin,

    I believe every word. You are not alone with that type of experience. I know of people who have had as much as $20,000 frozen over trivially small dollar amounts and weeks of trying to solve the problem. I know of other people who've had their checking accounts tapped without notice, and without permission. Combine that with Paypal's very precarious financial situation, and they are a recipe for disaster. This is why I refused to use Paypal for so long.

    Russ, NCNE
  • lathmach - I will admit I have occasionally* paid inflated shipping fees for something that I really wanted. However, in my defense --- your rudeness was not neccesary or appreciated. Just because a person doesn't buy the *exact thing that you do, does not denote that it is junk - nor does that fact or the fact that I am new to this forum mean that I am "pretty dumb". I have never claimed to be an expert but I do find name calling to be quite immature.
  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭
    i received a coin earlier today that closed thursday at 4:50 on the west coast. paypalled 2 hours later. coin went out friday, traveled three thousand miles for 83 cents postage. life is good.

    i too have an auxiliary checking account and minor credit card on file with paypal.

    life is good.
  • Welcome to the forums, Neptune.
    To clarify things I was posting to the thread started by Braddick. I wasn't responding to your comments.
    In this hobby there are coins that are rare and those that are common.
    The common coins will always be available and a buyer can choose the time and terms of purchase. On this type of stuff, passing because you don't care for the seller's terms is fine.
    On the other hand, some coins are seldom available, and must be obtained when oppurtunity presents itself. Also, there are die varieties of coins that are very rarely available, and the astute collector will obtain them when he or she can.
    To do otherwise simply because it takes a little effort to go the the post office and buy a money order can't be real smart.


    Ray
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I wish it were a little effort.
    I get off work @ 3:30 and haul butt to get to the bank by 5:00 to get the cash.
    The next day I get off work @ 3:30 and haul butt to get to the Post Office by 4:30 to get money order.
    That is if we don't have cranes or concrete trucks on the job late or get behind some silly tourist driving 20 MPH and slamming on brakes at every driveway trying to figure out if that is the right beach house he's sposed to be staying in that week.
    Then that ruins 2 afternoons I could be stopping at the beerjoint instead.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I just leave work whenever I feel like it. I have a cooperative boss.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • Sounds like my boss. Only problem is the jerk won't give me any health benefits or paid vacations. image
  • Call me lazy, because that's exactly what I do. I can pay for an auction I just won in a minute after the close with PAYPAL, and hopefully my package will be shipped the next day. With a PC or MO, it takes time for my letter to get there, and then the check has to clear. Not to mention the costs of MOs and postage.

    Speaking of PAYPAL- I've actually had no major problems at all. But my checking account falls in the ~1% of banks that can't be confirmed for verification. So, I can't get verified to raise my spending limit. I'm now working on my second account with a "yahoo" email address. I live in a semi-secluded area and don't have many banking options. I wish they'd change that rule, or accept my bank. image
    "Buy the coin, not the holder"

    Proof Dime Registry Set

  • More and more, I am getting ebay lazyness, both buying and selling. I used to put $20 items for sale on ebay, but it's just not worth the hassle sometimes. Also, I have ebay lazyness buying as well. Heck, even if they accept paypal, it can be somewhat of a pain, typing up my address, etc.image But then again, ebay is about the best place there is for coins overall (along with this site!)

    JJacks

    Always buying music cards of artists I like! PSA or raw! Esp want PSA 10s 1991 Musicards Marx, Elton, Bryan Adams, etc. And 92/93 Country Gold AJ, Clint Black, Tim McGraw PSA 10s
  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    I get off work @ 3:30 and haul butt to get to the bank by 5:00 to get the cash.
    The next day I get off work @ 3:30 and haul butt to get to the Post Office by 4:30 to get money order.


    You can use a debit card to pay for a money order at the Post Office.
  • GilbertGilbert Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭
    Dog don't do debit cards! image

    Neptune - In lathmach's defense, I sorta' figured he wasn't "talkin' to/at you", but I felt the same feeling you did and just refrained from posting. He!!, even after he PCed it, I still feel "beneath" him. I want to be astute too. image I admit, I prefer the quick pay method also, and of course when that special coin comes around, that I can't take care of electronically, I do what I have to do. I'm sure all the others who are saying they are "lazy" and prefer the option of closing the deal immediately via paypal or whatever means, will also divert from the norm when it is necessary. Can they be astute too?
    Now, all joking aside; Lathmach, if feels/sounds/reads like your being condescending. I s'pose it could just be my thin skin tho'. Generally, I enjoy most of your posts, I think. image Maybe you're having a bad day; God knows I had my share. Maybe I'm having one right now.
    Gilbert

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