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1967 Jefferson - How much does a softer strike impact grade?
Windycity
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I know there are no known 1967 Full Step Jefferson Nickels. And there are only 5 MS67 coins. How much does the typically soft strike impact grade?
Here's an example of a nice looking coin.
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nice looking coin in what way? booming luster?
it seems to be very late die state with pitted fields and rounded letters on the reverse.
Most all 1967 coins appear to be late die state.
Here is the PCGS Coin Fact image - MS67
“How much does a softer strike impact grade?” I’d guess one to one and a half points.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
When you get above MS-65, it makes a big difference. Which coin should be more valuable if both were graded MS-67? Would you prefer the OP coin or the one in the PCGS CoinFacts photo? Certification grading numbers have to mean something.
In my opinion, the OP can grade no higher than MS-64, given the reverse.
Is it me or does there look like a 1 above Monticello. Also what happened to Thomas's lower jaw.
Something seems to be going on here. Pareidolia?
Is this obverse area recessed?
A softly struck 1940s Walking Liberty half dollar has entered the chat.
One can have an as struck coin with booming luster that grades gem Unc. My issue is that I wouldn’t pay a gem Unc. price for it.
The recessed area on Jefferson's jaw may be a strike through debris?
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If offered to me, the pictured coin would be a PASS regardless of the assigned grade due to its strike.
Strike matters but less so than what many think. The mid to late issues 1960s are notorious for being very weakly struck and being struck from heavily worn dies. You might be surprised at what a grading service might call it. My concern is more the mark on the jaw.
The straightish tick along the medial aspect of Jefferson's mandible. It is at the periphery of the lower red circle around 1'. It does look like a neat die clash.
First I am seeing the same thing about the jaw and I see it going back to the hair curl and above. I thought of three things and then wondered is it an optical (photo) thing. I don't know. But I noticed that the funky lines / periphery I am seeing matches up somewhat to the outline of the nickel. I put some arrow on ithe funky outline and circled what looks raised on it. I then went to the phone and cropped out another TV about the same size.
That funky outline somewhat matches the outline on the
other TV and that circled area (and the one below it) matches up somewhat to the depressions in the other TV. Again, I don't know as I keep seeing it as a depression.
On the OP question about strike here is a pcgs youtube on it. The strike versus grade is at about the 3 minute to 4 minute mark. I will say I don't think this is always followed.
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Yeah. What the heck is this doing here?
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Respectfully, it varies by issue and they definitely deviate from the video.
I think it is more in line with what Mark posted.