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[GTG]: 1927 Saint-Gaudens Gold Double Eagle *GRADE REVEALED*

P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 8, 2026 8:14AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Update: grade revealed in a comment

Common date double eagle in a PCGS holder.



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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66. Lovely!

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2026 12:02PM

    Probably MS64 cac. This date is about the best for aesthetic appeal of the series. I read the sun has to be clear and unhit for a real gem.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll go 65, thinking the mark on the sun may have held it back, and yes it’s a lovely coin!

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    I’ll go 65, thinking the mark on the sun may have held it back, and yes it’s a lovely coin!

    If the coin graded less than 66, it probably wasn’t because of the mark on the sun. While distracting, it’s not significant enough to preclude a grade of 66.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    I’ll go 65, thinking the mark on the sun may have held it back, and yes it’s a lovely coin!

    If the coin graded less than 66, it probably wasn’t because of the mark on the sun. While distracting, it’s not significant enough to preclude a grade of 66.

    Thanks Mark; actually I made that comment because of you, as I know you prefer it when posters include their rationale for their guesses.
    Perhaps I’m overly sensitive to marks on the sun, being a walker guy. But even in this case it’s on the reverse, I still found it a bit distracting.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    I’ll go 65, thinking the mark on the sun may have held it back, and yes it’s a lovely coin!

    If the coin graded less than 66, it probably wasn’t because of the mark on the sun. While distracting, it’s not significant enough to preclude a grade of 66.

    Thanks Mark; actually I made that comment because of you, as I know you prefer it when posters include their rationale for their guesses.
    Perhaps I’m overly sensitive to marks on the sun, being a walker guy. But even in this case it’s on the reverse, I still found it a bit distracting.

    I appreciate your having included your rationale. And I agree that the mark distracting.
    One of the things I learned as a grader is that there are a lot of coins that I don’t like, even if they
    appear to be accurately graded.

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65

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    lermishlermish Posts: 5,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+ with a sticker.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Too much going on around the high point of her leg
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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64+

    Beaned

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ms 64+, nice coin

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    KoveKove Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭✭

    65

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m forced to change my guess to 63. The breast area is too flat for 64

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    CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65+

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    dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-66

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-64 CAC

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65 CAC

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2026 2:48PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    I’m forced to change my guess to 63. The breast area is too flat for 64

    Although I wouldn’t grade the coin that low, I can certainly see your point.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65 on the basis of it looks way better than the 63 and the couple of 64's I've owned, lol -- nice luster, marks but small, non-violent ones, strike pretty good if not perfect.

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    csdotcsdot Posts: 737 ✭✭✭✭

    MS65+

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    GoobGoob Posts: 594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2026 3:19PM

    That’s a beautiful Saint! I’ll guess MS66

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn't the sun supposed to be virtually mark free for a gem grade?

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2026 3:33PM

    My guess is athletes foot 65. A very pretty saint.

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    mattnissmattniss Posts: 863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice example! I'm in the MS65 camp, and it deserves a CAC sticker if it doesn't have one at that grade.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Isn't the sun supposed to be virtually mark free for a gem grade?

    I’ve never heard of such a requirement.

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS graded it MS-65 not CAC. If PCGS graded it MS-64 or 64+ then CAC green stickered it.

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64+ CAC approved

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:
    PCGS graded it MS-65 not CAC. If PCGS graded it MS-64 or 64+ then CAC green stickered it.

    Your post and several others included reference to CAC, but the opening post didn’t even indicate that it was submitted their.

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    lermishlermish Posts: 5,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @oreville said:
    PCGS graded it MS-65 not CAC. If PCGS graded it MS-64 or 64+ then CAC green stickered it.

    Your post and several others included reference to CAC, but the opening post didn’t even indicate that it was submitted there.

    Speaking for myself, I know the OP appreciates CAC's opinion on his coins. I think it's unlikely (but not impossible) that he bought a non-stickered coin and did not subsequently submit it for sticker review.

    I just added my opinion re the sticker for completeness and because it's fun to take a guess and test ones' skills.

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    P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    GRADE REVEAL

    This result may surprise everyone except tradedollarnutcase, who was the only one that guessed correctly.

    I will be sending her off to CAC for sticker review next month and will update the thread when she is back.


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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow, surprise indeed, don't be surprised if you get a gold.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:
    wow, surprise indeed, don't be surprised if you get a gold.

    And don’t be surprised if it doesn’t sticker. It’s a great looking coin, but JA is funny about high points

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    lermishlermish Posts: 5,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regardless of the number on the holder, that looks like a very lustrous and attractive example, particularly assuming that you likely paid near melt.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The piece is very attractive, but it has a very minor break in the mint frost at the highest points. I think that MS-63 is a fair grade, but it's not a "Gem Unc."

    Here is a 1927 double eagle, graded MS-65, with the coveted "green bean."

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    mattnissmattniss Posts: 863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's my 1927 DE, graded MS63 with green CAC, as another reference point.

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    safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was leaning towards 63/64 with the knee chatter. Good call TDN! Beautiful coin though!

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not that it matters, I would have guessed 64 for the flatness in the chest and on the knees. And I would predict no bean at that grade as it technically has friction and CAC hates friction on MS graded coins.

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not think Liberty’s breast flatness was as serious an issue that @tradedollarnut thought. I was thinking that it was more of a soft strike issue. As far as PCGS grade … it is an older PCGS slab which i and PCGS was more conservative back in the day.

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    P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just got the coin. In dim angled lighting, it has a pleasant green-gold skin that I wasn't expecting based on the GC photos (forgive the glare in the first set of photos; it was the only way to show it). Looks like nice originality, although gold isn't my specialty.

    There is a touch of light friction on Liberty's breast. I don't have enough experience with Saints to know if it's disqualifying, so this will be a good learning opportunity. I am trying to pick up a couple more to send in one sub.



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    HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones - wonderful rich gold color on your coin.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin - grade just doesn’t matter in this instance

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