Is this CC Morgan genuine
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Got into a disagreement with another fellow on a different forum regarding this coin someone posted. I believe this to be authentic and the other guy thinks it's counterfeit and claims to work at Stacks. Any opinions, I'm not a morgan guy so I could be wrong but I feel like I've been doing this long enough to tell a counterfeit from a pic and this doesn't seem like one? What do the experts think?
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It looks counterfeit to me.
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If Mark says it's no good, I'll go with that.
Credit to the original poster for at least showing pictures that aren't obviously counterfeit...
No good. I don’t like the surfaces and the wire rim around the reverse.
Ill go with bogus as well
Of all the fake CC Morgans, this one is the most fake.
Definitely leaning counterfeit. The denticles seem way too strong given the condition of the rest of the coin, although the CC mint mark doesn't scream counterfeit to me. The whole coin just seems "off".
No. Definitely fake.
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Here's the one from Coinfacts... the rims look suspect and the mintmark looks "off" to me as well. Also, the surfaces look to be more worn than the details left on the coin would indicate if real... I'm certainly no Morgan Dollar expert, but I'd pass on this one.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1889-cc-1/7190
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It's definitely fake. Modern Chinese-made at that.
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Fake. Tell him you're Greg Roberts and he has passed the test. He may continue to work for you.
Looks fake, but with only 7 die pairs used for mintage, easy to confirm, esp since only 4 are the far date and only 1 has the CC tilted left, Vam 3. There are several die markers for the obverse and reverse to confirm if authentic although maybe the counterfeiters are getting better.
My first impression was "definitely fake" and a modern one, at that.
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Details look “soft”
The mushy details are a red flag, as well as the usually faked "patina" on this coin.
I appreciate your humility in asking for more opinions at the risk of being wrong. We all live and learn!
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The mint mark alignment doesn't match up to the one on coinfacts.
edit: No "M" in the bow.
how many reverse dies are there that only one needs to be examined?
counterfeit
You should be pleased that it has been confirmed as a counterfeit. Now you know for sure. If someone has offered to sell you should pass.
Hopefully you have not bought it already.
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That coin looks super suspect. Surface is off, strike even on a more warn out morgan dollars is sharper. Plus 1889cc is a key day and their are probably 10 fakes of every real one of that year and mint.
Looks like a typical fake currently being made in China.
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