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1831 CBH -- need help grading

COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 17, 2025 2:05PM in U.S. Coin Forum

What do you think this raw Capped Bust Half would grade? All opinions welcome.


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  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 55

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah what he said

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the AU55 and possibly an O-110, JMO
    Jim


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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53, possibly cleaned.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FWIW, here's a short video...
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dIxzZc--1a4

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  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58. Very nice.

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 402 ✭✭✭✭

    AU55

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  • fluffy155fluffy155 Posts: 269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The way the light moves in the video makes me think it was cleaned, but assuming it straight grades I would be at 55 on that one. It might make 58 on a good day.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    AU53, possibly cleaned.

    +1

  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 was my first thought

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Before I saw the video I was thinking AU55. But after I saw it, my guess changed to AU details, cleaned.
    When making videos, I suggest that you tilt and rotate the coin a bit more slowly and keep the movements more consistent.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Didn't look at the video, but I without that I am in the AU55 camp, although the picture looks grainy so maybe something in the video is telling people something I don't see from the image alone.


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  • jomjom Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the video the coin looks "shine-y" rather than lustrous if that makes any sense. I'm going with "cleaned'.

    jom

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU-55!!!

    "But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you" Matthew 6:33. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.
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  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    I agree with the AU55 and possibly an O-110, JMO
    Jim

    Looks like O-110 (R.2) to me too.

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  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2025 9:33AM

    Several comments suggested maybe this coin was cleaned.

    In hand, it doesn't look cleaned to me. But I can see that my photo/video/lighting might suggest otherwise.

    Anyway, Grandma was adamant about NOT cleaning coins. She insisted on keeping 'em in as-acquired condition. I took that advice to heart.

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  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If y'all found more bust half dollars, we would love to see those too!

    "But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you" Matthew 6:33. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.
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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @COCollector said:
    Several comments suggested maybe this coin was cleaned.

    In hand, it doesn't look cleaned to me. But I can see that my photo/video/lighting might suggest otherwise.

    Anyway, Grandma was adamant about NOT cleaning coins. She insisted on keeping 'em in as-acquired condition. I took that advice to heart.

    Grandma might have been adamant about not cleaning coins, but the coin might have been cleaned prior to its ownership by your family.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @COCollector said:
    Several comments suggested maybe this coin was cleaned.

    In hand, it doesn't look cleaned to me. But I can see that my photo/video/lighting might suggest otherwise.

    Anyway, Grandma was adamant about NOT cleaning coins. She insisted on keeping 'em in as-acquired condition. I took that advice to heart.

    Grandma might have been adamant about not cleaning coins, but the coin might have been cleaned prior to its ownership by your family.

    .
    Agreed, that's entirely possible.

    I'm taking the coin to the Long Beach Show this week. Hopefully I can get some in-hand opinions about whether it'll straight-grade or not.

    In any case, after I take ownership, I plan to submit it to PCGS.

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  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jacrispies said:
    If y'all found more bust half dollars, we would love to see those too!

    .
    I'll post photos after we finalize a deal and I get the coins home to my "photo studio"...

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 55

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Enjoyed reading the back story! I'm thinking AU53. Please share opinions you get at Long Beach, when you can.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely wiped but I could see that straight grade, in other words I have seen worse.

  • OldeTowneCoinShoppeOldeTowneCoinShoppe Posts: 253 ✭✭✭

    Strong AU details but cleaned (and I did not watch the video). Whenever I see that overly frosted look, I start with the assumption the coin has likely been baking-soda cleaned.

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  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 21, 2025 2:58PM

    I showed the coin to two knowledgeable (and two admittedly not-so-knowledgeable) folks at the Long Beach Show yesterday. Everyone agreed it's a nice solid AU.

    Upon close inspection, the knowledgeable folks said it was likely dipped/wiped long ago.

    Maybe market-acceptable today, so maybe it'd straight-grade... but no one I spoke with would be surprised by a details grade.

    I'd hate to see it in a details slab.

    Anyway, it's a pretty common variety (R.2) and high mintage (5,873,660). And as a family heirloom, it'll spend the rest of my life in a safe deposit box.

    So for now, it stays raw.

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF53 dipped long ago, refined and stored/preserved nicely over the years.

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