GTG GRADE REVEALED IN COMMENTS With An Interesting Question For You To Answer After The Reveal.
Walkerlover
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1939 Lincoln Cent With An Interesting Question For You To Answer Upon The Reveal.
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Guess the grade for this coin and I will reveal it not too much later tonight with a question for you guys.
Not my jam, but the coin definitely looks circulated. I’ll say AU 58.
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Don’t really get the point of posting a gtg with blurry photos, but 66RD (and definitely not circulated).
I am attempting to ignore what you have written in the OP so as to not influence my guess, but my first reaction is MS65RD.
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Sorry not my coin.
MS63RD
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MS63RD but looks to be possibly on the wrong planchet?
Red and south of 65. My limit is 64
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Another photo
I think one set of blurry photos was enough.😉
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MS63 red
No? In that case, I guess that your coin is PCGS MS67RD CAC.
That's what all this is leading up to, right?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/365384905276
not close to a 67
64RD
Not at all. Nothing to do with my listing, Just trying to make a change in my type set.
I"m confused with why the ebay listing is being conflated with the coin in the OP. However, I think I might regret asking what the backstory is, so if no one wants to explain it to me then we are all good.
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the fun starts later tonight
considering the trials and tribulations you've had with buying coins from photos, i'm guessing there's more work to do
62 rd
The OP has a history of taking advantage of the Forum for his own gain (often at the expense of other eBay sellers). He has a problem with committing to purchases and looks for any reason possible to return them ("the coin looks like it won't upgrade", "won't CAC", etc. - see his earlier threads).
Upon further research, the original coin in question was purchased on eBay yesterday (see below). It is possible the OP purchased it thinking it will upgrade, and is mining the Forum for opinions, as he has done so many times in the past. In that case, it's not fair to the Forum or to the seller, particularly if the OP decides to return it based on our opinions (as he has done so many times in the past).
The earlier eBay listing I posted is the coin the OP is trying to sell, which would fit with him purchasing a new example.
The OP coin from this thread:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326430878384
Nope I am not the buyer. The question than is how did this coin pass CAC as a MS 67? Coin seems to have fair amount of chatter in the right obverse field. My guess would have been 65. But of course maybe in hand the contact marks are small and barely noticeable.
So what is the point then, to draw attention to the coin you have for sale?
Not at all, just as I asked I was surprised the coin got a 67 and received a CAC sticker. Many OBH coins were overgraded
Most people guessed much lower than 67 so I wanted to see what they thought nothing more
same coin, verified by the reverse slab scratch from the 5 o'clock up to the wheat kernels then through the "A"
perhaps the imperfections "seen" are on the slab
you're asking us to guess, and we are. if you don't think we're having to guess by looking at those photos, there's more work to do
with those photos, i definitely should not have used that wording
it doesn't look like a 67, but it's "Hard To Tell From Those Photos"
Looks way too banged up to be a 67.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
I'm confused. By posting the listing, wouldn't you be the one who drew attention to the coin OP has for sale?
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
the op was going to post it eventually, it's the mo
ikest figured it out earlier in a couple of earlier posts
Ah, okay—haven't followed the other drama. So this whole thread is a ruse?
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
it was more than just a gtg. it was a comparison of subject coin with one already owned. both 67cac
Interesting because I am considering a thread that could give historical data of which PCGS eras were looser/tighter than others. Obviously, not sure yet looks loose here but luster looks strong.
@Walkerlover - why does it matter?
Coin Photographer.
Absolutely False. I posted a group shot already of my set of 20th century type coins for Pocket Change including THIS LINCOLN PENNY.
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January 8, 2025 8:58PM
@Catbert said:
Congrats! Now we need a group shot of your type set!
Posting the set minus 2 coins that are out for reconsideration at PCGS that I used with a few free vouchers, but will take a few months to grade.
See below. LINCOLN PENNY was mentioned and pictures posted in my Washington Quarter Thread a few days ago. Please apologize and Ike T should as well as my thread is not connected to my own coin which is coincidentally a MS 67 CAC coin as well.
What do you mean?
the odds overwhelmingly favor bad photos vs both pcgs and cac together getting it that wrong
Good point but keep in mind that the majority of Omaha Bank Hoard coins were overgraded
I have yet to see an “interesting” question, as advertised in the thread title.
All I’ve seen is a call for speculation based on subpar quality images.
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it looking gemmy from the pics, i would have guessed 65
The coin in the op is without question MS66+ in today's market grading world so MS67 is not that much of a stretch. A case where the excellent luster carried the load just as some toning gives a grade bump.
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The coin might be MS66+ “without question” to you. But to a number of us, that’s far from the case. The images (which granted, might be highly misleading) make it appear that the coin’s obverse is peppered with conspicuous contact marks. And excellent luster can’t even begin to compensate for that.
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I'm sorry but you are not correct, in today's market grading driven grading room luster and color overcome subpar surfaces quite often. I don't agree with greadflation (no that is not a typo) and it shouldn't be that way but it is. I've been collecting Lincolns for decades and have seen many coins like this in 66 or 67 holders, the grade doesn't surprise me in the least even with the subpar images.
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It’s good to know that you can be so certain in your assessment and opinion, even though more than 10 other posters (as in nearly everyone else who replied) think the coin deserved a lower grade than you do. You should start a one-man grading service.
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What’s the issue with it grading 67 CAC?
Coin Photographer.
So we have a grade reveal. What was the interesting question for us to answer after? RGDS!
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There isn't one. Same old BS from the OP, different year. Iggy.
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i would think cac would catch that. that's the point of their existence
I'm not sure what has your panties in such a wad here Mark, is it that your grade guess was far too low.
I never said I agree with the MS67 grade, only that I see both PCGS and NGC over grade coins (of all type and denomination) due to excellent luster and/or color while ignoring or discounting surface presentation. While I came into this thread after the reveal, I would have guessed MS66+ for the grade knowing how PCGS grades and what they value and discount when grading.
In a recent thread about grading a seated half you chastised members of the forum who guessed lower than AU
Maybe you should apply your own words to yourself as your MS63RD grade was far too strict.
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Late to the party again, but I was in the 63 or 64 RD camp before i saw the reveal. Flashy luster with a lot of obverse contact marks.
No panties in a wad, here, but rather, more than mild surprise at your below comment and attitude, despite the overwhelming disagreement with your assessment. I’m often confident in posting minimum or maximum grade guesses/estimates. But I don’t remember being so to the extent of saying “without question…”. And if nearly everyone disagreed with me, I’d at least question my own assessment and wonder where I might have gone wrong.
“The coin in the op is without question MS66+ in today's market grading so MS67 is not that much of a stretch. A case where the excellent luster carried the load just as some toning gives a grade bump.”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.