So get out the crayons and break this one down for me why someone coaching Penn State would be worth $8.8M per year?
So then you obviously don't know how much money a major college football program brings into the University..........Look at what they pay to a kid to transfer to their program.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
So get out the crayons and break this one down for me why someone coaching Penn State would be worth $8.8M per year?
So then you obviously don't know how much money a major college football program brings into the University..........Look at what they pay to a kid to transfer to their program.
It's like 10-20% of the program's revenue which would be incredibly out-sized for that type of role. I would ask why you accept it as reasonable based on 'these are big numbers'.
Ohio State's football program generated over $127 million in revenue for fiscal year 2023, with the increase driven by ticket sales, eight home games, and higher royalties, licensing, advertising, and sponsorship revenue. This revenue helps support the entire Ohio State athletic department, which posted a record total revenue of over $279.5 million in FY2023
Giving a big named coach that much that will bring in high grade recruits is a very small percentage of that!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
@Steven59 said:
Ohio State's football program generated over $127 million in revenue for fiscal year 2023, with the increase driven by ticket sales, eight home games, and higher royalties, licensing, advertising, and sponsorship revenue. This revenue helps support the entire Ohio State athletic department, which posted a record total revenue of over $279.5 million in FY2023
Giving a big named coach that much that will bring in high grade recruits is a very small percentage of that!
I think the players care more about the NIL than they do the head coach.
OSU 2024 was $111.6M
By contrast
Wisconsin 2024 was $100.6M
I am open to being convinced, but you're just telling me it's a good deal.
When did I say: "It was a good deal?" - And just remember you are not taking into account all the money from TV and Radio contract, the commercials that play during those broadcasts, parking fees, concessions, merchandise, and government grants that none of us will ever know how much that will total -
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
When did I say: "It was a good deal?" - And just remember you are not taking into account all the money from TV and Radio contract, the commercials that play during those broadcasts, parking fees, concessions, merchandise, and government grants that none of us will ever know how much that will total -
While you did not specifically say "It was a good deal" I was interpreting your statement "Giving a big named coach that much that will bring in high grade recruits is a very small percentage of that!" to mean that it's a good deal for the university as the salary is justified by the revenue the coach generates with recruiting. Is that not the right way to interpret that?
Those numbers are the total revenue, including that stuff. They're stated as estimates, but I mean, I'm seeing the same numbers you're mentioning so I didn't think we were using meaningfully different estimates. If you say the coach is worth that much because they bring in that talent then sure. As far as I know that could be true, but I'll leave it at... I'm skeptical.
@Steven59 said:
" I was interpreting your statement"
Well that's cause your an idiot - you don't know me.
Interesting. How else would I interpret that statement? It means something and I was taking a position that it's "not a good deal". You appear to be asserting the opposite, which would be: It's a good deal.
He has the resources to win a natty, even the hockey team got about 250 million for a new stadium. They cant really find a QB but i dont get how theyre so fine being like is fine as long as we make a bowl game
They legit might lose 5 games now if they cant beat UCLA
@Steven59 said:
" I was interpreting your statement"
Well that's cause you're a Genius! - I'm bowing down at the moment -
I really wasn't trying to trigger anyone here. I know it's a tough time and emotions are high. Forget what I said about head coaching salaries. I didn't mean it.
Penn State was a 4 TD favorite. Now with a new head coach, maybe UCLA can turn their season around.
Here's an interesting stat... Miami is now 5-0 with the win over FSU. Miami has yet to play a game outside the State of Florida, and wont play one until November when they play at SMU.
Alabama could be the best team in the SEC. Hard to belief, considering how bad they lost to FSU in week one. Or, is Oklahoma or Ole Miss better? Who knows right now?
It gets harder every week to figure out who is gonna be placed in the Top 10, I envision the voters up all night till their eyes are bloodshot. Yeah, like that ever happens. My biggest beef with how the voters pick teams is when they penalize somebody for not playing and drop them down, I fully expect to see that today. But here is my list.
@Maywood said: @coolstanley said: Miami has yet to play a game outside the State of Florida, and wont play one until November when they play at SMU
How are they expected to play a West Coast team when they can't even make it outa their home state??!!??
They dont go to Standford or Cal. The furthest west they go is SMU and they play Standford at home who are bad. The ACC championship is in Charlotte if they get there. SMU of Louisville might get them but at this point barring injuries Miami is going to run the table
Miami plays nobody the rest of the way and haven't really played anybody up to this point in the season, yet they continue to rise in the Poll. Since losing to Iowa State last year in the "Pop-Tarts Bowl" they have stayed in Florida and played chumps while barely squeaking by the 2 decent teams they played --- yet they keep rising in the Poll.
If Ohio State were to have a bye next week, Miami(Fla) would be the new number 1 if they beat AAC powerhouse Louisville!!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
Miami plays nobody the rest of the way and haven't really played anybody up to this point in the season, yet they continue to rise in the Poll. Since losing to Iowa State last year in the "Pop-Tarts Bowl" they have stayed in Florida and played chumps while barely squeaking by the 2 decent teams they played --- yet they keep rising in the Poll.
If Ohio State were to have a bye next week, Miami(Fla) would be the new number 1 if they beat AAC powerhouse Louisville!!!
SMU and Louisville arent nobodies but not elite in terms of remaining schedule. In terms of who theyve played so far theyve beaten ND, FL, South Florida, and FSU. Thats significantly harder than what OSU has done if you want to compare them head to head for some reason. OSU has a cake walk left too, they have Illinois whose overrated, Michigan and PSU.
If youre going head to head Miami already has 3 ranked wins to OSUs 1 and their win was Texas and people are finally figuring out Arch is average and holding the program back.
OSU is going to be number 1 until they lose, but it doesnt change the fact Miami has had a much harder schedule so far
Miami is lucky they aren't 3-2. That is one thing that riles me up about the Poll voting: a team can fall in the Poll simply because it's their bye-week and another team can rise in the Poll bye beating someone they should steamroll by only a few points. Also, the importance of beating a ranked team should be measured at the end of the season when the committee is figuring the final order. Ohio State beating Texas meant a lot back on week 2, it means a lot less right now when Texas is 3-2 and gone from the Top 25. The fact that Miami beat the current 16, 24 and 25 teams doesn't really impress me because those teams are moving in the wrong direction as they try to catch Texas.
That's what the whole Strength of Schedule/Strength of Record debate was all about. When Oregon beat Penn State it seemed like quite a feat, one week and another PSU loss later and not so much. Teams can only play who is on their schedule and have no say in where those teams are ranked. If a team beats who they are supposed to beat by an established comfortable margin they should be rewarded or at least not punished. When a team loses to an opponent they should beat or wins but struggles, they shouldn't be rewarded and also shouldn't be surprised if the voters punish them in the Poll.
There are examples of all these scenarios each week. Right now, in the Top 10, Miami is benefitting. As the 2nd ranked team in the country they should have won by more than 3 and 6 points, their best wins to date.
--- about Ohio State, I have always felt that the defending National Champion SHOULD be ranked 1st until they lose.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Considering Miami has played every game in their home State, they have not had a harder schedule than Ohio State. Ohio State had to travel to Washington, in which Washington was riding on a 22 game home win streak. Tough environment. Ohio State also has to play Illinois on the road, another tough team to beat at home. Ohio State will also likely have to play Oregon in the BIG TEN championship game if both teams keep winning.
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So get out the crayons and break this one down for me why someone coaching Penn State would be worth $8.8M per year?
So then you obviously don't know how much money a major college football program brings into the University..........Look at what they pay to a kid to transfer to their program.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
It's like 10-20% of the program's revenue which would be incredibly out-sized for that type of role. I would ask why you accept it as reasonable based on 'these are big numbers'.
Ohio State's football program generated over $127 million in revenue for fiscal year 2023, with the increase driven by ticket sales, eight home games, and higher royalties, licensing, advertising, and sponsorship revenue. This revenue helps support the entire Ohio State athletic department, which posted a record total revenue of over $279.5 million in FY2023
Giving a big named coach that much that will bring in high grade recruits is a very small percentage of that!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
I think the players care more about the NIL than they do the head coach.
OSU 2024 was $111.6M
By contrast
Wisconsin 2024 was $100.6M
I am open to being convinced, but you're just telling me it's a good deal.
but you're just telling me it's a good deal.
When did I say: "It was a good deal?" - And just remember you are not taking into account all the money from TV and Radio contract, the commercials that play during those broadcasts, parking fees, concessions, merchandise, and government grants that none of us will ever know how much that will total -
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
While you did not specifically say "It was a good deal" I was interpreting your statement "Giving a big named coach that much that will bring in high grade recruits is a very small percentage of that!" to mean that it's a good deal for the university as the salary is justified by the revenue the coach generates with recruiting. Is that not the right way to interpret that?
Those numbers are the total revenue, including that stuff. They're stated as estimates, but I mean, I'm seeing the same numbers you're mentioning so I didn't think we were using meaningfully different estimates. If you say the coach is worth that much because they bring in that talent then sure. As far as I know that could be true, but I'll leave it at... I'm skeptical.
" I was interpreting your statement"
Well that's cause you're a Genius! - I'm bowing down at the moment -
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Interesting. How else would I interpret that statement? It means something and I was taking a position that it's "not a good deal". You appear to be asserting the opposite, which would be: It's a good deal.
Not a good look for you.
There you go - I fixed it so your feelings aren't hurt - go play some Big Bunny and feel better about yourself tonight!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
I'm broken.
He has the resources to win a natty, even the hockey team got about 250 million for a new stadium. They cant really find a QB but i dont get how theyre so fine being like is fine as long as we make a bowl game
They legit might lose 5 games now if they cant beat UCLA
Fire AJ Preller
I really wasn't trying to trigger anyone here. I know it's a tough time and emotions are high. Forget what I said about head coaching salaries. I didn't mean it.
Penn State was a 4 TD favorite. Now with a new head coach, maybe UCLA can turn their season around.
Here's an interesting stat... Miami is now 5-0 with the win over FSU. Miami has yet to play a game outside the State of Florida, and wont play one until November when they play at SMU.
Alabama could be the best team in the SEC. Hard to belief, considering how bad they lost to FSU in week one. Or, is Oklahoma or Ole Miss better? Who knows right now?
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
As they say on the BIG TEN network, 'there is never a dull moment in the BIG TEN.
Washington wins being down 20 points in the 2nd half to get the road win over undefeated Maryland 24-20.
Ohio State coach Ryan Day now moves ahead of the great Knute Rockne in career win percentage of .882.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
@coolstanley said: Miami has yet to play a game outside the State of Florida, and wont play one until November when they play at SMU
How are they expected to play a West Coast team when they can't even make it outa their home state??!!??
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
This ranking system seems to act as a betting guide as well. The voters are like touts.
It gets harder every week to figure out who is gonna be placed in the Top 10, I envision the voters up all night till their eyes are bloodshot. Yeah, like that ever happens. My biggest beef with how the voters pick teams is when they penalize somebody for not playing and drop them down, I fully expect to see that today.
But here is my list.
Ohio State.
Oregon.
Miami(Fla).
Ole Miss.
Oklahoma.
Texas A&M.
Indiana.
Alabama.
Georgia.
Texas Tech.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Now that the poll is out I would have had GA higher but close enough. At least they finally realized PSU has absolutely no business being ranked
Fire AJ Preller
They dont go to Standford or Cal. The furthest west they go is SMU and they play Standford at home who are bad. The ACC championship is in Charlotte if they get there. SMU of Louisville might get them but at this point barring injuries Miami is going to run the table
Fire AJ Preller
Miami plays nobody the rest of the way and haven't really played anybody up to this point in the season, yet they continue to rise in the Poll. Since losing to Iowa State last year in the "Pop-Tarts Bowl" they have stayed in Florida and played chumps while barely squeaking by the 2 decent teams they played --- yet they keep rising in the Poll.
If Ohio State were to have a bye next week, Miami(Fla) would be the new number 1 if they beat AAC powerhouse Louisville!!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
SMU and Louisville arent nobodies but not elite in terms of remaining schedule. In terms of who theyve played so far theyve beaten ND, FL, South Florida, and FSU. Thats significantly harder than what OSU has done if you want to compare them head to head for some reason. OSU has a cake walk left too, they have Illinois whose overrated, Michigan and PSU.
If youre going head to head Miami already has 3 ranked wins to OSUs 1 and their win was Texas and people are finally figuring out Arch is average and holding the program back.
OSU is going to be number 1 until they lose, but it doesnt change the fact Miami has had a much harder schedule so far
Fire AJ Preller
Miami is lucky they aren't 3-2. That is one thing that riles me up about the Poll voting: a team can fall in the Poll simply because it's their bye-week and another team can rise in the Poll bye beating someone they should steamroll by only a few points. Also, the importance of beating a ranked team should be measured at the end of the season when the committee is figuring the final order. Ohio State beating Texas meant a lot back on week 2, it means a lot less right now when Texas is 3-2 and gone from the Top 25. The fact that Miami beat the current 16, 24 and 25 teams doesn't really impress me because those teams are moving in the wrong direction as they try to catch Texas.
That's what the whole Strength of Schedule/Strength of Record debate was all about. When Oregon beat Penn State it seemed like quite a feat, one week and another PSU loss later and not so much. Teams can only play who is on their schedule and have no say in where those teams are ranked. If a team beats who they are supposed to beat by an established comfortable margin they should be rewarded or at least not punished. When a team loses to an opponent they should beat or wins but struggles, they shouldn't be rewarded and also shouldn't be surprised if the voters punish them in the Poll.
There are examples of all these scenarios each week. Right now, in the Top 10, Miami is benefitting. As the 2nd ranked team in the country they should have won by more than 3 and 6 points, their best wins to date.
--- about Ohio State, I have always felt that the defending National Champion SHOULD be ranked 1st until they lose.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Considering Miami has played every game in their home State, they have not had a harder schedule than Ohio State. Ohio State had to travel to Washington, in which Washington was riding on a 22 game home win streak. Tough environment. Ohio State also has to play Illinois on the road, another tough team to beat at home. Ohio State will also likely have to play Oregon in the BIG TEN championship game if both teams keep winning.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Ap preseason poll was not very accurate this year.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions