Half cent experts: would you send any of these in to PCGS?
I just picked up the following five half cents.
A: 1804 plain, no stems
B: 1804 crosslet 4, stems
C: 1804 crosslet 4, stems
1800 clipped planchet (note for some reason an emoji appears instead of the letter D when I hit save, 🤔)
E: 1835
I am no expert on half cents. I think B (die crack on reverse over half), C (rim dings), and E are possibly candidates to send in. A & D both could be errors, A appears to be slightly off center except someone embossed a crown on her head, and D looks like a clipped planchet and has a slight scratch on the obverse therefore even if they get graded genuine should they be sent in?
Is PCGS more flexible in grading 200 + year old copper coins?
These coins were part of a collection so my cost is somewhat ambiguous whereas the grading fees are more finite. If any of these should be sent in should I also choose mint errors?
Thank you in advance for your comments and advice.
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The clipped planchet is pretty darn cool. They all appear pretty original from what I can tell. I don't know their value graded vs. raw though.
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Frankly I would keep them all raw.
B looks like it had an old cleaning, unless it's just the image.
C looks Ok, not sure if the rim issues will pass muster though.
E looks like the best candidate, but it's not particularly valuable at that grade level.
In my personal first hand experience, PCGS is NOT more flexible with early copper (at least for the past few years), until you get pre-1797.
Tagging @jesbroken, he's spent a lot of time with early half cents the past few years, his comments will be more valuable than mine.
In my opinion the only coins that would grade would be the 1800 clipped coin and the 1835. The 35 would not be worth the expenditure and I have no idea as to the value of a clipped draped bust half cent, never owned one. Do not get me wrong, I love the other coins as they appear totally acceptable to me for a collection and I would have them in a minute, but would not pay to have them entombed. Great group of coins. Wish you the best. If you are able to have a complete set of Draped Bust Half Cents in the above condition, I would consider you very lucky.
Jim
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Here's what I think. I was very active with these coins in the late 1980s and early '90s. I've not done much since.
A. The 1804 Plain 4 Stemless is the most half cent in my opinion. That one is cleaned and damaged and not worth the grading fee. Die variety, Cohen 1804, #13.
B. This is an 1804 #5, which is a better variety, rated as an R-4, 76 to 200 known. Unfortunately I think it has been cleaned and will not get a straight grade. Half cent collectors might like this one raw.
C. Cohen variety 1804 #9. This is a fairly common variety. It appears to have to some rim damage on the reverse and won't get a straight grade.
D. There is only one vareity of the 1800 half cent. This one has an interesting planchet clip. In my day that could lower the value. It might be different now. It has some damage, so I don't think it will get a straight grade.
E. Cohen variety 1835 #1. This is a very common variety. There are quite a few Mint State examples known of this piece. This one has the sharpness of an AU, but I don't know about the luster from the photo. My guess is it's not worth the grading fee.
Walkerguy: thank you for tagging Jessbone
Jessbone and Billjones: thank you for the insight. My goal is to sell them so your information was very helpful, thank you.
Agree with Bill Jones. The 1835 Classic Half Cent if it has some luster, people are asking $80-$100 raw for them. If it doesn't grade AU and you have it graded, you're buried in the coin. If it does grade AU 50, grading fees and shipping will take a big bite out of what you can get for it and put in your pocket.
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I have nothing new really to add to what people above have mentioned, so I will just reiterate what was essentially said:
Nothing really WORTH submitting.
EAC guys, and those needing 7070 examples may well purchase them, but if you had them slabbed, you likely would lose money. I just don't see it being worth doing.
I've got an Everyman's Set of half cents, and have done them for more than a few years, and have sent some in for slabbing, but I've been pretty picky on doing that. I wouldn't send these in but would keep them raw.
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I for one do not have any half cents in my 7070, so I may be interested in purchasing some...
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I'd be interested in the half cent (B)
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