Draped Bust GTG (and bonus Guess the Flop!)
Bolo
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Just had another batch of my older raw coin purchases submitted for grading. In this lot are three Draped Bust type coins, and I'm interested to see what everyone here thinks of the grading. One of the three came back as a details coin, see if you can spot which one it is! Follows is a half dollar from 1806, 1805 dime, and 1800 half dime.
Note: The Trueviews are a little bit on the bright glamour side. Coins in hand are more...grey.
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I am not up to speed enough to grade them but the half dime seems a little too shiny for the grade so I will guess it was called polished. All beautiful coins and would be thrilled to own one or all. James
I have never graded draped bust before. Without looking at any guides or graded pieces, I am going to say Details(unnatural color?)(EF details), VF30, F12.
These are pure guesses! Feel free to give me lols if I messed up big time.
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EF 40 (Maybe EF 45 or even better as notoriously weakly struck)
VF 20 details AT
F 12 details cleaned
Thats why I thought this would be fun. Don't have a lot of opportunities to grade stuff like this. I'm certainly not very good at it!
Well, I think the Half Dollar straight-graded, and of the other two, it appears the Dime is more questionable than the Half Dime.
So, here's three WAG's before I've finished my coffee
EF40
VF details
F15
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1806 Half Dollar AU-53
1805 Dime VF-30
1800 Half Dime Details, Improperly Cleaned, VF details.
I won’t hazard a guess regarding numerical grades, but I will guess it’s the half dime that got details.
40, 30, VF Details.
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EF40, VF30, F details.
Well that was interesting. pursuitofliberty guessed exactly what I thought it would turn out as - the dime worried me a bit. I know most of these early coins have been dipped at some point so I hoped it would slide. Didn't!
The 1806 half dollar graded VF-35. doh. Thought it'd make EF40 (and thats what I bought it as).
The 1805 dime graded VF details - cleaned. Oh well.
The 1800 half dime straight graded as a F-12.
VF25....VF cleaned....F-12
@Bolo that's interesting ... thanks for sharing this with us. FWIW I waffled hard on the Half (35/40/35/40/40/40/35/40)!
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Todd - BHNC #242
Here's why I thought that the half dollar graded higher. This is graded AU-58. Even in the 1970s, it was called AU-50 by legitimate graders. Many 1806 and 1807 half dollars has weak hair detail.
I can't see how the 1800 half dime got a straight grade.
I’d crack and send in the dime and half again. They both probably deserve better. You probably got lucky on the 1/2 dime.
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The half at VF 35 looks undergraded, when I see wing tip feather detail like that I assume the weak central strike is why they limited the grade, easily EF 40 to me
Commems and Early Type
Thanks for the comments! Maybe I can submit the half dollar to CAC and get the magical gold bean.
Here's what I guessed before looking at the reveal: 30, 10, Fine details scratches
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I was 35, 25, and 15.
Could see the argument for higher on the first based on weak strike, but the wear is pervasive (hair, stars, chest, etc.) Same with the reverse: flat eagle head, "U" in PLURIBUS gone, tail feathers half gone. Once a weakly struck coin is worn, it's hard to tell the difference. Also, quite a few marks which suggests moderate circulation. The surfaces need to be cleaner to get forgiveness for strike.
JMHO. Fun to guess.