CAC Submission: Guess the results

Avocet

I have sent several CAC submissions over the years. While my ability to predict what may sticker may have gotten a little better, the main lesson that I have learned is that accurately predicting the outcome of a review is tough.  Similarly, previous GTG exercises on this forum sometimes prove tough, but estimating CAC verification seems harder.  Whenever I put together a submission to CAC, I usually get together with my collector and dealer friends to make predictions, and we appreciate the learning experience that follows. 

As others have done on the forum in the past, it may be interesting to ask folks to guess the outcome of sticking / verification for the following submissions. I have recently come across these coins from a collector who sent them to PCGS; they have never been to CAC.  These coins are not my typical collecting area, but each has been a quality fill for my broader collection.

I believe only some of these coins will be stickered, and I predict that two may succeed.

I know that in-hand inspection is needed to make the best assessment, but please guess for those who would like to take a stab from these tru-views.

I will post the results once the coins return from NJ in a few days.

Thanks for taking a look and for your comments about these coins.

I am particularly excited about the 1810 1c BN and hope it will pass.

I was inspired by @renomedphys recent post. There are many great coins out there that don't pass for various reasons.

asheland

Yes, to all except for:

No to the $.20 piece
No to the barber dime

I love that large cent!

lermish

No
No
Yes
No
Yes
Yes

Edit: Unfortunately with the TV quality, it's impossible to determine luster and true coloring but I gave it my best shot.

constitutional_halve

@asheland said:
Yes, to all except for:

No to the $.20 piece
No to the barber dime

Agreed.

On the fence about the SLD. I can't tell what the surfaces are like with that TV

1madman

I think the merc will green sticker. No to all the others.

I personally think several of these would details grade if sent to cacg, but maybe the trueviews are the culprit still

Avocet

@1madman said:
I think the merc will green sticker. No to all the others.

I personally think several of these would details grade if sent to cacg, but maybe the trueviews are the culprit still

I agree with the details potential, especially for one of these. The true views are an obstacle here for sure, as the luster, among other features, is hard to assess.

jacrispies

@1madman said:
I think the merc will green sticker. No to all the others.

I personally think several of these would details grade if sent to cacg, but maybe the trueviews are the culprit still

These were my exact thoughts. Not entirely outstanding coins. Mercury looks decent and has a chance.

logger7

Personally I don't see much eye appeal except in the Shield Nickel, the 20c quarter for the grade and the Mercury dime. I'd think they make a rigorous analysis where a coin on the edge may pass with them a grade or two lower but sometimes not due to surface issues.

JBN

I hope your 1810 gets stickered.
My guess is the 41-S dime and the shield nickel get stickers.
Thanks for the thread.

Coinscratch

I like numbers 1, 2, and 6 for approval.

privatecoin

No
No
Yes
No
No
Yes

coinbuf

I am in the no to all but the merc, on the fence for the shield nickel but think it will fail.

ProofCollection

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. No
6. Yes

cheezhed

No guess but I’m interested in the results.

pcgscacgold

I will guess just the Merc received a bean.

hummingbird_coins

First 3 green second 3 no (would be yes for the mercury dime but I think I might see a wheel mark on obverse)

Shurke

I'll guess yes for the Merc and the shield nickel.

CRHer700

Yes to 2,3, and 6.

johnny010

These are tougher for me.

slider23

yes
no
yes
no
no
yes

shish

Maybe
No
No
No
No
Yes

MICHAELDIXON

1. NO
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
5. No
6. Yes

braddick

Perhaps.
I don't know.
Could be.
Maybe not.
That's a tough one.
Good chance.

johnny010

@braddick said:
Perhaps.
I don't know.
Could be.
Maybe not.
That's a tough one.
Good chance.

About how I felt
1) no
2) maybe-ish
3). I say no but I could see it just has that look
4) please no
5) no
6) idk

cameonut2011

1. No - damage at 7:00; possible corrosion at 11:00 under the star
2. No - surfaces look rather dull and lack luster;
3. Maybe - the luster must carry the coin and confirm that all of the flatness is from a weak strike (some of it clearly is) as opposed to wear
4. No - dipped out, possible old cleaning
5. No - obverse hairlines
6. Yes

Avocet

@braddick said:
Perhaps.
I don't know.
Could be.
Maybe not.
That's a tough one.
Good chance.

I love how you addressed this-- were you listening in to my conversation with my buddy @asheland ?

knovak1976

1 yes….love that coin!
2 yes
3 no
4 no
5 no
6 maybe

Good luck!

johnny010

@Avocet

Looking for your update once you get back from NJ.

BloodMan

No
No
Yes
No
No
Yes

pursuitofliberty

Put me in for

No
No
Yes
No
No
Yes

Will be interesting to see. I'm on the fence on 1. (because I don't know how JA does copper) and 2. (50/50 in my eyes).

I am also sending in a group and may have to put some in a thread like this.

oreville

@shish said:
Maybe
No
No
No
No
Yes

My thinking exactly but I have not had my morning coffee yet.

TPRC

yes
yes
yes
no
no
yes

marcmoish

sorry not more positive, but no to all except the Merc, last one.

Avocet

@pursuitofliberty said:
Put me in for

No
No
Yes
No
No
Yes

Will be interesting to see. I'm on the fence on 1. (because I don't know how JA does copper) and 2. (50/50 in my eyes).

I am also sending in a group and may have to put some in a thread like this.

I hope you consider making a similar thread with your submission -- the discussion and comments helps me with the learning process.....

HillbillyCollector

So, here goes:
>
Maybe- Don’t know much about copper.
No
Yes
No
No
Yes

NormB

IMO, yes to 2,3,6 No, 1: hit on the face 4: needs liberty word 5: looks cleaned

davewesen

No to shield nickel, yes to the rest with Mercury getting a GOLD

hummingbird_coins

@NormB said:
IMO, yes to 2,3,6 No, 1: hit on the face 2: needs liberty word 5: looks cleaned

you mean 4 not 2 needs complete liberty right?

NormB

@hummingbird_coins said:

@NormB said:
IMO, yes to 2,3,6 No, 1: hit on the face 2: needs liberty word 5: looks cleaned

you mean 4 not 2 needs complete liberty right?

thanks for notice, yes, i mean 4

Avocet

Still no word from NJ, but hopefully soon.

Here are my guesses for these coins.

1: No
2: No
3: Yes
4: No
5: No
6: Yes

If these were to go to the Grading team, I suspect that CAC grading may designate the Barber and 20C as details, and maybe even others. It will be interesting to see what they do. The 1810 !c is my favorite of this lineup, and I have cautious hope on that one, but I think they will decline it.