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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome and thanks for sharing . I will defer to Fred’s thoughts on the thing. A “gang punch…. “. That’s about right.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2024 2:39PM

    @MFeld said:

    @DocBenjamin said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    oh yeah... wrong forum. try the buy sell trade to mention the sale

    Disagree. This is an interesting topic. Would have gotten lost in the BST.

    An interesting topic doesn't negate the spam of the thread title : "I wanted to share and advertise this discovery coin for error people it's at cco auctions right now!" or the first post, the entirety of which was a link to the auction listing.

    Interesting information can be posted without spamming the forum.

    Not really. He doesn't seem to be able to explain what the error actually is. So, all we've got is spam.

  • We will just see what the auction does!!

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    I would not believe what ai says because sometimes it's wrong i know this because I know someone who knows about the ai stuff can't say who

    You know that AI can sometimes be wrong because you know someone who knows AI?

    I know that AI can sometimes be wrong because I have eyes and can read. I wish I knew someone who must stay secret!

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    Now I'm selling at auction

    @2lr said:
    I'll leave it at that we will just see how many are interested in this interesting numismatic piece

    I’ll be surprised if it breaks 100$ by much if at all. Looks like the type of coin they used to sell at the mall kiosk back in the 80s for 5$ which was over priced at the time.

    Most error coins are at least a little unique being mechanical deviations. The best things I see going for it are the classic criterias of which elements are still present date/MM.

  • I just wanted to say there is going to be alot of fake things in the ai stuff trust me

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2024 2:59PM

    @2lr said:
    I would not believe what ai says because sometimes it's wrong i know this because I know someone who knows about the ai stuff can't say who

    I know about the "AI stuff". We use it to help write scholarly articles. It's not always right but neither is the internet. But I'm still waiting for a cogent explanation from you.

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr you keep telling us to trust you but we have no reason to. If you’ve got better info, please share.

  • Everyone have a great day!

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    We will just see what the auction does!!

    That really won't help any of us understand the error.

  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the Tueller collection?

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  • DocBenjaminDocBenjamin Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @DocBenjamin said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    oh yeah... wrong forum. try the buy sell trade to mention the sale

    Disagree. This is an interesting topic. Would have gotten lost in the BST.

    An interesting topic doesn't negate the spam of the thread title : "I wanted to share and advertise this discovery coin for error people it's at cco auctions right now!" or the first post, the entirety of which was a link to the auction listing.

    Interesting information can be posted without spamming the forum.

    Not really. He doesn't seem to be able to explain what the error actually is. So, all we've got is spam.

    New members often settle down and become quality contributors. If truly new here, knowing about the BST rules were unlikely/

    Coin had at least an unusual description. Hope the fellow stays around.

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  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    I've gone to so many experts and it has been advised they all them have never heard of a punch Die break on rim error or seen

    Rare does not necessarily mean valuable. Error prices are generally driven by how dramatic and eye appealing the error is.

  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    Why do you even care

    When I buy coin where provenance is advertised, I like to have information about the collection and its history.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2024 4:35PM

    @2lr said:
    So i sold a struck in silver fragments for alot of money at great collections that was my first coin i sold i only collect unique and cool errors the tueller collection i thought to be awesome to have that last name

    Links to your GC auctions please.

    So the provenance is a Vanity Provenance?

    Edited to add, IF I were to ever buy a coin with "tueller collection" (sic), I'd have it removed.

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where is Mike Byers? Since his name was invoked, I'd like to hear his thoughts on this "amazing" error.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    I just wanted to say there is going to be alot of fake things in the ai stuff trust me

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    I hope the auction goes well!! I know everyone has there opinions but i just wanted to advertise and share

    Yes, we know, as you’ve advertised and shared in more than 30 posts to this thread.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Where is Mike Byers? Since his name was invoked, I'd like to hear his thoughts on this "amazing" error.

    @Byers

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    If you're interested in the coin, put a bid on it. Otherwise move on and give it a rest.
    BTW, Tueller is the owner of said coin collection.

    If you're interested in advertising it, get it out of the main forum and over to the BuySellTrade. At this point, you are a troll spamming the main board.

    You should read and pay attention to the responses. Or, move along.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    If you're interested in the coin, put a bid on it. Otherwise move on and give it a rest.
    BTW, Tueller is the owner of said coin collection.

    That’s a very interesting change in writing style. The grammar’s noticeably better and the sentences include periods at the end of them. It’s almost as if two different people are posting.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2024 4:32PM

    @MFeld said:

    @2lr said:
    If you're interested in the coin, put a bid on it. Otherwise move on and give it a rest.
    BTW, Tueller is the owner of said coin collection.

    That’s a very interesting change in writing style. The grammar’s noticeably better and the sentences include periods at the end of them. It’s almost as if two different people are posting.

    It is definitely two different people. Very odd.

    The former person also referred to the collection as his. The second person suggests Tueller is a different person.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Byers said:
    Ok ok. I have arrived.😉

    To make a long story short:

    I told him that I was not familiar with that description used by NGC…

    That it’s an interesting insert description.

    I suggested that he auction it.

    And then wished him luck once he told me that he had consigned it to SB.

    Could you clarify what the error actually is?

    TIA

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you bidding @Byers ?

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 623 ✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    I've gone to so many experts and it has been advised they all them have never heard of a punch Die break on rim error or seen

    Do any of them want to buy it?

  • ByersByers Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fred described it accurately.

    I was not familiar with the term…

    No, I am not bidding on it.

    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • DocBenjaminDocBenjamin Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2lr said:
    If you're interested in the coin, put a bid on it. Otherwise move on and give it a rest.
    BTW, Tueller is the owner of said coin collection.

    Oddly after 2 decades I have never bought from Stacks. Probably have an account but don't know the password. I would bid about $150 all in. Though this will probably sell for a higher price than that.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Are you bidding ?

    i wonder if it'd be kept a secret if it was

    but "no" is an answer i believe

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • DocBenjaminDocBenjamin Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just bid $80 and outbid.

    I'll check back after Rosh Hashana.

    o:)

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2024 5:09PM

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2024 5:10PM

    D-R-A-M-A !

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  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭✭

    Owner is going to be in the negative with all the fees in selling item NGC mint error fee and associated auction fees etc? What does Stacks charge for this type of auction?

    How much business does it take to get NGC etc to get a special label to holdet.

  • CregCreg Posts: 524 ✭✭✭✭

    Buy the slab, not the coin.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i'm surprised it's what I'll call "so high"

    I think the op is doing well

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here's one just lounging on the bay. it seems $100 is doing well

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/335333454346

    50% O/C Full Date and MM

    $79 BIN

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    here's one just lounging on the bay. it seems $100 is doing well

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/335333454346

    50% O/C Full Date and MM

    $79 BIN

    No punch error...

    Although i hate to think his spamming is working...

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no punch $79

    punch $100 and counting before the juice

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