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Shouldn't thus be on the BST forum?
I'm not sure what a "punch die break on rim" is, but otherwise does this really constitute a "discovery coin"?
Sorry for the cynicism - maybe I'm missing something.
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The “punch die break” is referring to the blanking operation. The coin is far from a “discovery” though.
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Here's the correct forum to use for buying, selling, promoting, advertising, etc. : https://forums.collectors.com/categories/buy-sell-trade-u-s-coins
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No thank you.
I look at a fair amount of errors and have never seen that designation. Good luck on the auction.
Well, aside from the fact that this is the wrong forum to plug an auction, could you elaborate on the punch die break? I've looked at the photos and I'm not seeing what that could be.
Could the die punch error on the rim equate to a planchet clip?
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What you describe here would be a cud, and I do not see a cud on the coin you linked. Like many others I am confused and unsure what the description that NGC used means.
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According to the AI, the punch die break is a break in the punch prior to it being used to place an element on the die. So the "cud" ends up being transferred from punch to die.
I'm not 100% sure but is it the "F" in AMERICA?
not a big deal on the punch die break to me
it's not a cud, but it is a small extra bit of metal on the rim. so, it generates about the same "wow" as a tiny cud
oh yeah... wrong forum. try the buy sell trade to mention the sale
Ok thanks that helped me to see what this is.
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I'm envisioning the broken punch die as causing less metal on the planchet. Instead of punching out a round disk, the punch has a void which is not there to punch the strip in that spot.
But who knows.
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Yes, this is what the punch die break is referring to. Not a significant characteristic but I've never seen one.
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I had never seen (or heard of) this either, my new thing learned for the day.
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If that's what it is then it's safe to say it's a non-issue if the coin is struck properly. The spread of the coin during striking would presumably eliminate that.
well, maybe as a more unheard of error someone will pay more for it
The area you marked is what I was thinking too. A blanking punch is much like a die without a design. I've never heard of this error before but if the punch has a piece out like a cud on a regular die, I could see it happening. One would probably have to see this piece in hand and the edge to understand it. I think it's a legit error. I have never heard of one nor thought of it happening, but I can envision it. Every blank produced with this particular punch would have the "cud" obliterated when the coin is struck. This one just happened to be on an off center struck coin.
Here's a Cent blank punch that's in my collection.
Here's a close-up of a photo from NGC's certification page. It shows the error better.
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Then half the planchet should be missing.
Do tell. Something is definitely getting lost I'm translation here.
What is your connection to the coin? Yours? A friends? Or??
Disagree. This is an interesting topic. Would have gotten lost in the BST.
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Not possible. The punch die creates the planchet, and the regular dies strike the coin (off-center, in this case).
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An interesting topic doesn't negate the spam of the thread title : "I wanted to share and advertise this discovery coin for error people it's at cco auctions right now!" or the first post, the entirety of which was a link to the auction listing.
Interesting information can be posted without spamming the forum.
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We made it interesting. The first post was just an advertisement.
I think, although I’m not certain, that what NGC is labeling, refers to a small
Chip out of the edge of the punch – which would leave that very small raised “blob’ that we see on the rim area.
I would think that after being punched as a type 1 blank like that that, that area would possibly disappear as the
Blank was going through the upsetting mill to become a type 2 planchet, but there it is.
It sounds like a “gang punch cud” - interesting in a scholastic way, but not a major, significant ,or dramatic error.
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Unless it is a rare 1933 $20.
You’ve convinced me. Just placed $10k bid.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Talk is cheap unless other people are going to bid you up to your limit.
I just placed a $9,999.99 bid. I guess you win!
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