NEWP 1943 Washington Quarter. CAC RESULTS IN. Will It Pass CAC? Any Thoughts On The Coin?

Walkerlover

_I_Just received this coin in the mail bought on EBay. I am finishing an all silver 20th century type collection. Do you think it will CAC? And Yes I am keeping it as I like the look of the coin. Any thoughts on the quality of the coin.

My first Washington Quarter purchase.
My Photos In Hand, followed by the glamour shots of the seller. Still Satisfied coin is close enough to the seller’s picture. Thanks for your responses.

PeakRarities

Not terrible, Im thinking 66 is a bit generous though. I'd grade that no higher than 65 based on those pics, but this date graded more loosely than a 32-D would. I don't think it will CAC, and I wouldn't waste the money submitting a coin of this value.

Relaxn

No... coin looks over graded.

Question I have... why not just buy CAC'd coins. You are seemingly focused on CAC... so why not just buy CAC coins.

fluffy155

I think it qualifies for MS66, albeit at the "C" level. The obverse field scrape would keep it from stickering IMO, it's a prime focal point.

Walkerlover

@Relaxn said:
No... coin looks over graded.

Question I have... why not just buy CAC'd coins. You are seemingly focused on CAC... so why not just buy CAC coins.

Too difficult to find coins I like as I am too selective in terms of eye appeal and only a handful of coins under $200 have stickers. My main problem is I have difficulty finding coins with super fresh roll like luster so it limits me.

So I will submit a few inexpensive coins at once for the $16 collector grandfathered special they have, I am still looking for the Franklin so I will wait.
You guys are the experts and my photos are not the best but to me in hand the coin looks 66+ as I see very few contact marks at all. Curious why you think it’s overgraded?

PeakRarities

The two cheekbone hits in the prime focal point along with the obverse field chatter just bring it down to a 65 for me personally 🤷.

It’s probably fine for 66 by modern standards but I lean old school when it comes to grading.

Walkerlover

@DeplorableDan said:
The two cheekbone hits in the prime focal point along with the obverse field chatter just bring it down to a 65 for me personally 🤷.

It’s probably fine for 66 by modern standards but I lean old school when it comes to grading.

I see the obverse chatter but in hand it looks very light not too distracting I do not see any hit on the cheek bone at all. I am using a 75 soft white bulb for grading purposes don’t know if that is the optimal lighting. Anyway thanks for your feedback I will submit it to CAC and update the forum accordingly. Will be a good learning experience for me see if the coin is clean enough to earn a green sticker

Copperindian

I have no problem with the 66; it’s CAC I’m not sure about. Good luck!

TomB

Provided there aren't hairlines I am missing, I believe it will CAC at MS66.

PeakRarities

I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

Aotearoa

That seller is not known for selling under-appreciated coins.

Walkerlover

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

Sure I acknowledge your sentiment. But you’re missing my point. My aim was to complete a silver type set that is 100% CAC approved with super eye appeal and all blazers.. For me that is an accomplishment.

Why can’t you accept that collectors who buy coins under $500 also want the prestige of owning correctly graded coins approved by CAC. It’s not about the money 💰 cost for a sticker as I couldn’t care less.

TomB

I believe it is poor form to call out a collector by name and might get you banned. I suggest you edit your post.

Walkerlover

@TomB said:
I believe it is poor form to call out a collector by name and might get you banned. I suggest you edit your post.

Thanks Tom I didn’t realize that mistake

Shurke

Have you considered switching from PCGS/CAC to CACG? More and more coins in CACG holders—including ones in very affordable grades—are coming onto the market everyday.

Seems like a good way to get inexpensive coins with CAC approval without having to play the will-it-won’t-it sticker game.

Elcontador

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

lermish

@Elcontador said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

CAC does indeed sticker lightly dipped coins. Ask @winesteven

EDIT: I have a couple also.

TomB

@Elcontador said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

I believe CAC always stickered lightly dipped coins, if they still otherwise met the approval of CAC standards.

winesteven

I’ve been a CAC Collector submitter since the very beginning, over 15 years ago. As @lermish correctly states, a LOT of my 20th century silver, and some of my 19th century silver, has been dipped. However, the dipping apparently was done gently enough where the coin still merits CAC stickers on EVERY one that I own!

Here’s just one example:

Steve

keyman64

I have heard ... and also learned the lesson a few times ... If you want a coin in a PCGS holder with a CAC sticker, it is best to buy it that way. Let others go through that challenge. There are enough coins out there these days...in most cases, unless you are into some niche.

As for that quarter, I think it looks pretty good with even color (lack there of). It is stable in an older holder. There aren't distracting spots. The marks are not terrible. All that said, I do not think it would sticker, nor do I think it would be worth the attempt. For what it is, it's a fine looking quarter. The POP for that coin is 1,323. Had you really wanted one with a sticker, I bet you could have found one for close to the same price.

jfriedm56

@winesteven said:
I’ve been a CAC Collector submitter since the very beginning, over 15 years ago. As @lermish correctly states, a LOT of my 20th century silver, and some of my 19th century silver, has been dipped. However, the dipping apparently was done gently enough where the coin still merits CAC stickers on EVERY one that I own!

Here’s just one example:

Steve

Absolutely love your 1916 SLQ Steve!

Walkerlover

@Shurke said:
Have you considered switching from PCGS/CAC to CACG? More and more coins in CACG holders—including ones in very affordable grades—are coming onto the market everyday.

Seems like a good way to get inexpensive coins with CAC approval without having to play the will-it-won’t-it sticker game.

Truth be told I would love to cross most of my coins to CACG as I feel I have a good amount of plus candidates. However I do not like the construction of their slab, much too thick and prone to scratches. If they have newer version in the future that is scratch resistant and as thin as the PCGS holders yes I will cross some of my coins not older PCGS holders

Walkerlover

@Elcontador said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

How do you know for sure it was dipped and not from an original roll? Luster is bright and clear not washed out or dull like a typical dipped out coin

Cougar1978

I vote yes it will pass CAC. It’s super PQ.

Elcontador

@winesteven said:
I’ve been a CAC Collector submitter since the very beginning, over 15 years ago. As @lermish correctly states, a LOT of my 20th century silver, and some of my 19th century silver, has been dipped. However, the dipping apparently was done gently enough where the coin still merits CAC stickers on EVERY one that I own!

Here’s just one example:

Steve

Hi Steve,
They must like your coins more than mine, because the few lightly dipped coins I sent in didn't sticker because they were dipped.

Elcontador

@Walkerlover said:

@Elcontador said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

How do you know for sure it was dipped and not from an original roll? Luster is bright and clear not washed out or dull like a typical dipped out coin

I don't, but would bet against it. But a skillful dip will get rid of gunk like a silver sulfide haze on a coin and not affect its luster. A skillfully dipped coin is not a dipped out coin.

cameonut2011

I think there is too much chatter for a sticker.

MFeld

@Elcontador said:

@winesteven said:
I’ve been a CAC Collector submitter since the very beginning, over 15 years ago. As @lermish correctly states, a LOT of my 20th century silver, and some of my 19th century silver, has been dipped. However, the dipping apparently was done gently enough where the coin still merits CAC stickers on EVERY one that I own!

Here’s just one example:

Steve

Hi Steve,
They must like your coins more than mine, because the few lightly dipped coins I sent in didn't sticker because they were dipped.

CAC doesn’t decline to sticker dipped coins unless they’ve been over-dipped. If yours were just lightly dipped, they failed to sticker for other reasons.

fluffy155

@keyman64 said:
The POP for that coin is 1,323. Had you really wanted one with a sticker, I bet you could have found one for close to the same price.

But the stickered pop for that coin is only 19, I suspect it would take a long time for one to pop up for sale.

winesteven

@Elcontador said:

@winesteven said:
I’ve been a CAC Collector submitter since the very beginning, over 15 years ago. As @lermish correctly states, a LOT of my 20th century silver, and some of my 19th century silver, has been dipped. However, the dipping apparently was done gently enough where the coin still merits CAC stickers on EVERY one that I own!

Here’s just one example:

Steve

Hi Steve,
They must like your coins more than mine, because the few lightly dipped coins I sent in didn't sticker because they were dipped.

@Elcontador and @MFeld addressed this issue perfectly. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands of stickered coins that have been gently dipped and remain highly lustrous!

Steve

keyman64

@fluffy155 said:

@keyman64 said:
The POP for that coin is 1,323. Had you really wanted one with a sticker, I bet you could have found one for close to the same price.

But the stickered pop for that coin is only 19, I suspect it would take a long time for one to pop up for sale.

This was for a type collection. He did not say he had to have a 1943. He also did not say it had to be exactly a MS66. It is more of the price point I imagine. When you take these things into consideration, the CAC Pop is quite a bit higher and it would not take long to find one to meet the needs.

Shurke

@Walkerlover said:

Truth be told I would love to cross most of my coins to CACG as I feel I have a good amount of plus candidates. However I do not like the construction of their slab, much too thick and prone to scratches. If they have newer version in the future that is scratch resistant and as thin as the PCGS holders yes I will cross some of my coins not older PCGS holders

I wasn’t really speaking of crossing coins. I meant you could purchase coins already holdered by CACG, thereby removing the guesswork—and added expense—of constantly trying for stickers.

Walkerlover

@Elcontador said:

@Walkerlover said:

@Elcontador said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

How do you know for sure it was dipped and not from an original roll? Luster is bright and clear not washed out or dull like a typical dipped out coin

I don't, but would bet against it. But a skillful dip will get rid of gunk like a silver sulfide haze on a coin and not affect its luster. A skillfully dipped coin is not a dipped out coin.

You haven’t provided any reason for why you have a strong feeling it was dipped. What about the look of the coins surfaces make you feel that way? Please explain as I would like to learn from you your thought process.

gumby1234

@Walkerlover said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

Sure I acknowledge your sentiment. But you’re missing my point. My aim was to complete a silver type set that is 100% CAC approved with super eye appeal and all blazers.. For me that is an accomplishment.

Why can’t you accept that collectors who buy coins under $500 also want the prestige of owning correctly graded coins approved by CAC. It’s not about the money 💰 cost for a sticker as I couldn’t care less.

You can never complete a silver type set that is 100 percent CAC approved. They don't even consider Roosevelt dimes at CAC.

Walkerlover

@gumby1234 said:

@Walkerlover said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

Sure I acknowledge your sentiment. But you’re missing my point. My aim was to complete a silver type set that is 100% CAC approved with super eye appeal and all blazers.. For me that is an accomplishment.

Why can’t you accept that collectors who buy coins under $500 also want the prestige of owning correctly graded coins approved by CAC. It’s not about the money 💰 cost for a sticker as I couldn’t care less.

You can never complete a silver type set that is 100 percent CAC approved. They don't even consider Roosevelt dimes at CAC.

Actually I should have stated a 100% Possible CAC Silver Type set only as of course they don’t grade Rosie’s or Jefferson’s, my error

TomB

@Walkerlover said:

@gumby1234 said:

@Walkerlover said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

Sure I acknowledge your sentiment. But you’re missing my point. My aim was to complete a silver type set that is 100% CAC approved with super eye appeal and all blazers.. For me that is an accomplishment.

Why can’t you accept that collectors who buy coins under $500 also want the prestige of owning correctly graded coins approved by CAC. It’s not about the money 💰 cost for a sticker as I couldn’t care less.

You can never complete a silver type set that is 100 percent CAC approved. They don't even consider Roosevelt dimes at CAC.

Actually I should have stated a 100% Possible CAC Silver Type set only as of course they don’t grade Rosie’s or Jefferson’s, my error

I'm going to put my @jmlanzaf hat on (written with all good humor, @jmlanzaf!)...Actually CAC does grade Roosevelt dimes and Jefferson nickels, they just don't offer to sticker Roosevelt dimes.

Walkerlover

@TomB said:

@Walkerlover said:

@gumby1234 said:

@Walkerlover said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

Sure I acknowledge your sentiment. But you’re missing my point. My aim was to complete a silver type set that is 100% CAC approved with super eye appeal and all blazers.. For me that is an accomplishment.

Why can’t you accept that collectors who buy coins under $500 also want the prestige of owning correctly graded coins approved by CAC. It’s not about the money 💰 cost for a sticker as I couldn’t care less.

You can never complete a silver type set that is 100 percent CAC approved. They don't even consider Roosevelt dimes at CAC.

Actually I should have stated a 100% Possible CAC Silver Type set only as of course they don’t grade Rosie’s or Jefferson’s, my error

davewesen

I have never been able to determine degree of luster or eye appeal from 2 dimensional photos, maybe you are better.

oreville

I happen to think that this 1943 quarter looks to be a MS-65+ and is very nicely struck on the obverse and lustrous but it is does not look like a MS-66 because there is too much chatter on the obverse field particulary on the left side.

cameonut2011

@TomB said:

@Walkerlover said:

@gumby1234 said:

@Walkerlover said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

Sure I acknowledge your sentiment. But you’re missing my point. My aim was to complete a silver type set that is 100% CAC approved with super eye appeal and all blazers.. For me that is an accomplishment.

Why can’t you accept that collectors who buy coins under $500 also want the prestige of owning correctly graded coins approved by CAC. It’s not about the money 💰 cost for a sticker as I couldn’t care less.

You can never complete a silver type set that is 100 percent CAC approved. They don't even consider Roosevelt dimes at CAC.

Actually I should have stated a 100% Possible CAC Silver Type set only as of course they don’t grade Rosie’s or Jefferson’s, my error

I'm going to put my @jmlanzaf hat on (written with all good humor, @jmlanzaf!)...Actually CAC does grade Roosevelt dimes and Jefferson nickels, they just don't offer to sticker Roosevelt dimes.

Actually CACG (not CAC) grades Roosevelt dimes and Jefferson nickels. CAC and CACG are distinct companies and legal entities of their own. The submission agreement for CACG acknowledges the same.

TomB

Good catch!

Elcontador

@Walkerlover said:

@Elcontador said:

@Walkerlover said:

@Elcontador said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

How do you know for sure it was dipped and not from an original roll? Luster is bright and clear not washed out or dull like a typical dipped out coin

I don't, but would bet against it. But a skillful dip will get rid of gunk like a silver sulfide haze on a coin and not affect its luster. A skillfully dipped coin is not a dipped out coin.

You haven’t provided any reason for why you have a strong feeling it was dipped. What about the look of the coins surfaces make you feel that way? Please explain as I would like to learn from you your thought process.

I don't mean to be difficult, but I really don't know how a coin actually looks unless I or someone I know whom I trust sees it. A pic will often not show the actual toning or eye appeal of a coin. Compound this with the lighting that was used to make the pic. Unc. coins minted from the 1930s forward were routinely dipped before being sent to the TPGs.

Walkerlover

@Elcontador said:

@Walkerlover said:

@Elcontador said:

@Walkerlover said:

@Elcontador said:

@DeplorableDan said:
I guess I’m still hung up on the CAC approval. Obviously I understand why CAC is helpful but this is a $65 coin that’s obviously not cleaned or doctored. Who cares whether or not John thinks it has one too many hits for 66? What do you stand to gain out of that investment? You said you’re hunting for eye appeal, and you already bought the coin and have expressed that you like it.

I'm with Dan on this. Just an addendum. Unless CAC standards have changed, JA did not used to sticker dipped coins. If that's still true, I wouldn't submit this coin. As practical matter, I think it's a 6 by today's standards, and appears to have more than adequate eye appeal. Personally, I'd leave it be.

How do you know for sure it was dipped and not from an original roll? Luster is bright and clear not washed out or dull like a typical dipped out coin

I don't, but would bet against it. But a skillful dip will get rid of gunk like a silver sulfide haze on a coin and not affect its luster. A skillfully dipped coin is not a dipped out coin.

You haven’t provided any reason for why you have a strong feeling it was dipped. What about the look of the coins surfaces make you feel that way? Please explain as I would like to learn from you your thought process.

I don't mean to be difficult, but I really don't know how a coin actually looks unless I or someone I know whom I trust sees it. A pic will often not show the actual toning or eye appeal of a coin. Compound this with the lighting that was used to make the pic. Unc. coins minted from the 1930s forward were routinely dipped before being sent to the TPGs.

No worries. Your general statement is true I think. Unless you see the coin come out of a bank roll you can’t be 100% certain if it wasn’t dipped.

Connecticoin

I agree with Dan - it is a colossal waste of money to send cheap coins to CAC - the value gained might be 10 bucks for spending $16 or $22 plus postage both ways.

lermish

@Connecticoin said:
I agree with Dan - it is a colossal waste of money to send cheap coins to CAC - the value gained might be 10 bucks for spending $16 or $22 plus postage both ways.

Not necessarily. I made $38 from @P0CKETCHANGE sending in an inexpensive Washie.

Walkerlover

@Connecticoin said:
I agree with Dan - it is a colossal waste of money to send cheap coins to CAC - the value gained might be 10 bucks for spending $16 or $22 plus postage both ways.

You’re only looking at it from a financial perspective. A collector is entitled to have a CAC sticker for their pride and joy coins even inexpensive ones if they wish, without being looked down upon.

TomB

I really don't see why folks would care if a lower dollar valued coin was sent to CAC as long as the person who owned the coin and paid for the submission realizes it's likely not going to really increase their collection net value. This is just like sending in what many folks consider to be low valued raw coinage to a TPG. Many will write that it makes no financial sense to submit a coin to a TPG unless it's worth $200 or $500 or some other number that makes internal sense to the writer and we see these type of statements with respect to CAC, as well.

In my opinion, if you realize the bottom-line and you want the coin in a certain TPG holder or want the holder to have a certain sticker on it then go for it. It might not make sense to lots of folks, but our entire hobby-industry doesn't make sense to an awful large population of folks, either.

It's a low cost endeavor with a clearly stated goal. Go for it and enjoy the process.

P0CKETCHANGE

Agree with @TomB —if OP had stated their goal was to increase the value and sell the coin, by all means berate his foolish decision, but there are plenty of reasons to send in a coin other than ROI. I sent in the inexpensive WQ that @lermish mentioned mostly for education and entertainment value (for myself and the forum)—80% of folks said it’d fail so there was more than $22 in education value there alone. Plus it rode along with some other coins I needed evaluated, so the incremental shipping costs were nil. And if it failed, it would have been $0 thanks to my Collector membership.

PeakRarities

@P0CKETCHANGE said:
Agree with @TomB —if OP had stated their goal was to increase the value and sell the coin, by all means berate his foolish decision, but there are plenty of reasons to send in a coin other than ROI. I sent in the inexpensive WQ that @lermish mentioned mostly for education and entertainment value (for myself and the forum)—80% of folks said it’d fail so there was more than $22 in education value there alone. Plus it rode along with some other coins I needed evaluated, so the incremental shipping costs were nil. And if it failed, it would have been $0 thanks to my Collector membership.

I agree, and to clarify my earlier position, I wasn't trying to come off as "elitist" or be a stick in the mud. It's just that I don't recall OP ever stating in previous threads that his goal was to complete an all-CAC type set, and as far as I can remember, the vast majority of his purchases have been sight unseen non-cac eBay gambles, which seems counterintuitive to that goal. Generally, I would advise that someone with that goal buy as many coins as possible that are already stickered, and historically It seemed, to me at least, that OP was more interested in finding the best deal, than the best coins.

Just for the record, I don't "collect" CAC stickers for prestige. I'm pretty confident in my grading skills, but I like to buy CAC coins because they're easier to sell when the time comes, and because it's a respected opinion that the coin hasn't been monkeyed with, which is crucial with gold. Also, I buy alot from pictures only so a sticker is a tool that i use to protect myself on the front end. @Walkerlover, I understand that you would like the pride and satisfaction of getting the sticker on your own, but I would still advise that you try to view as many coins as possible, in hand, to get an idea of what John likes and what he doesn't. What bothers John doesnt always bother me, my most expensive coin bears no sticker. However, I think you'd have a lot to gain if you started to view a ton of coins at a local show or an LCS if possible, and that might give you a better success rate than buying coins sight unseen from outfits like "Great Southern Coins" (known rascals) on ebay.

Walkerfan

@DeplorableDan said:

@P0CKETCHANGE said:
Agree with @TomB —if OP had stated their goal was to increase the value and sell the coin, by all means berate his foolish decision, but there are plenty of reasons to send in a coin other than ROI. I sent in the inexpensive WQ that @lermish mentioned mostly for education and entertainment value (for myself and the forum)—80% of folks said it’d fail so there was more than $22 in education value there alone. Plus it rode along with some other coins I needed evaluated, so the incremental shipping costs were nil. And if it failed, it would have been $0 thanks to my Collector membership.

I agree, and to clarify my earlier position, I wasn't trying to come off as "elitist" or be a stick in the mud. It's just that I don't recall OP ever stating in previous threads that his goal was to complete an all-CAC type set, and as far as I can remember, the vast majority of his purchases have been sight unseen non-cac eBay gambles, which seems counterintuitive to that goal. Generally, I would advise that someone with that goal buy as many coins as possible that are already stickered, and historically It seemed, to me at least, that OP was more interested in finding the best deal, than the best coins.

Just for the record, I don't "collect" CAC stickers for prestige. I'm pretty confident in my grading skills, but I like to buy CAC coins because they're easier to sell when the time comes, and because it's a respected opinion that the coin hasn't been monkeyed with, which is crucial with gold. Also, I buy alot from pictures only so a sticker is a tool that i use to protect myself on the front end. @Walkerfan, I understand that you would like the pride and satisfaction of getting the sticker on your own, but I would still advise that you try to view as many coins as possible, in hand, to get an idea of what John likes and what he doesn't. What bothers John doesnt always bother me, my most expensive coin bears no sticker. However, I think you'd have a lot to gain if you started to view a ton of coins at a local show or an LCS if possible, and that might give you a better success rate than buying coins sight unseen from outfits like "Great Southern Coins" (known rascals) on ebay.

I believe that you meant to tag '@Walkerlover'.

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@Walkerfan said:

@DeplorableDan said:

@P0CKETCHANGE said:
Agree with @TomB —if OP had stated their goal was to increase the value and sell the coin, by all means berate his foolish decision, but there are plenty of reasons to send in a coin other than ROI. I sent in the inexpensive WQ that @lermish mentioned mostly for education and entertainment value (for myself and the forum)—80% of folks said it’d fail so there was more than $22 in education value there alone. Plus it rode along with some other coins I needed evaluated, so the incremental shipping costs were nil. And if it failed, it would have been $0 thanks to my Collector membership.

I agree, and to clarify my earlier position, I wasn't trying to come off as "elitist" or be a stick in the mud. It's just that I don't recall OP ever stating in previous threads that his goal was to complete an all-CAC type set, and as far as I can remember, the vast majority of his purchases have been sight unseen non-cac eBay gambles, which seems counterintuitive to that goal. Generally, I would advise that someone with that goal buy as many coins as possible that are already stickered, and historically It seemed, to me at least, that OP was more interested in finding the best deal, than the best coins.

Just for the record, I don't "collect" CAC stickers for prestige. I'm pretty confident in my grading skills, but I like to buy CAC coins because they're easier to sell when the time comes, and because it's a respected opinion that the coin hasn't been monkeyed with, which is crucial with gold. Also, I buy alot from pictures only so a sticker is a tool that i use to protect myself on the front end. @Walkerfan, I understand that you would like the pride and satisfaction of getting the sticker on your own, but I would still advise that you try to view as many coins as possible, in hand, to get an idea of what John likes and what he doesn't. What bothers John doesnt always bother me, my most expensive coin bears no sticker. However, I think you'd have a lot to gain if you started to view a ton of coins at a local show or an LCS if possible, and that might give you a better success rate than buying coins sight unseen from outfits like "Great Southern Coins" (known rascals) on ebay.

I believe that you meant to tag '@Walkerlover'.

oopsies, thank you 😅.