Just a rant.
Matt97932
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I would like to share my thoughts on this entire forum, which will probably get me banned but it's not like anyone here really helps me anyway. I have bought 4 coin books that has Collectors Universe advertised as the go-to place for real professional help and advice. Yet every time I come here for advice or help all I ever get in return is uppity sarcasm! If I wasn't a true lover of this hobby, this place would make me hate everything about coins. And I have watched, I am not special, y'all treat everyone that is not part of the online click here the same way, like it is bothersome for us new people to post anything!! If this is the way you are going to treat people why advertise this in the coin books as the go-to place to come?? From where I sit all that the majority of you are doing is belittle new people trying to learn something new! And if this is what it has become then I personally don't want to be any part of it!!! Here is the perfect example of this happening to me again today. My post earlier about the 2024 quarter that I found, y'all Read the tread. Not one thing is mentioned about the coin, but yet I'm criticized for both incorrectly identifying the error, then again for the auto correction that I missed that caused the misspelling of her first name. And still no mention of the error that is obvious on the reverse of that coin. So in closing, I'll say thanks for all your help.
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Looks like you've had plenty of help to me, despite your attitude.
After reading many of your posts, I don't see why you are so testy. Your questions have been answered, and there wasn't any nasty responses that I read. I will tell you what my mother would tell me: "You need to grow some thicker skin!"
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Read the first dozen or so of the threads you started and think you have been treated exceptionally well Must be having a bad day.
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Hi friend, we don’t get paid, y’know? 😉
I’m often very impressed with the patience of these our forum members!
Most coins you find in your pocketbook or a parking lot are worth face value. There is a reason why some coins bring big premiums. First, and most importantly, collectors want them. Second, there are fewer coins available than collectors who want them. That is the most simple basis the basis for collectors value.
A 2024 quarter would have to be very special to be worth a premium.
There are some people here who can't help but be sarcastic. But I just read your 2024 quarter thread and I don't know what you're complaining about.
You might want to Google what a "pasty" is, because maybe you aren't getting that joke. But, that issue aside, the other people noted the die chips politely. What else did you want them to say?
The fact is that small die chips on coins are pretty common and relatively uninteresting to most collectors. You like them. That's fine. No one criticized you for your interest. But are we supposed to pretend to be excited? I'm not sure what you expected us to say.
Okay, let’s start over, what is it that you want me to do?
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(The survivors wrote rants that were readable and logical.)
Don't be so critical of yourself or others. Don't be so thin skinned. A sense of humor, a personality and positive outlook are helpful attributes around these parts. It's only a hobby, it isn't open heart surgery.
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That's an excellent point. I'm smart enough to know, the knowledge level and experience here can chew me up and spit me out.
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In your other thread you identified the anomalies as cuds, and a few mentioned that they were die chips. That acknowledged the anomalies you saw.
You also asked if anyone had seen that quarter with those anomalies. Speaking for myself, I haven't seen any examples of that quarter design in circulation. Should we have answered "no"?
I think this should be taken further...
The rant is epitome of people today.
I found something now tell me what it is worth? Many of us have taught ourselves to grade or taught ourselves the knowledge we sought. Once that foundation was created you reach out.to these minds here to fine tune your knowledge.
You, THE OP, are lacking the foundational knowledge and you just continually come in here requesting these people tell you 1 of 3 things:
1) what do I have
2) is it valuable
3) should I grade it
Without, in many instances, positing what you believe you have, why you believe it and what you believe its worth.
This forum provides so much information but it usually comes in very specific drill downs and not broad foundational strokes.
You bought books... did you read them? The most knowledgeable error and variety collectors are part of this community but there is a fatigue that comes with people continually not able to recognize nor accept that the dime you found on the road or the lincoln you got back in change has PMD and not some rare die variety... You would know that too if you learned how coins were struck, dies prepared etc etc
Anyway... that last sentence was awful. I know. You get the gist.
Good luck
J
I don’t think I’ve ever opened any of your threads until now, this must be your first interesting title.
You might be expecting too much or trying too hard. I’d say lighten up most of the natives are friendly and more than willing to help.
I would be interested in a 2024 Quarter if it graded 68 otherwise I no clickie.
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First thing to remember as a newcomer to any forum is trust why you came and why you posted. Hopefully you came for the fraternity of like minded people of whom many are far more knowlegeable than you
Second, you posted for the most valuable thing available anywhere...
knowledge.
Please don't think, as so many newcomers do, that you've made a numismatical find of the century and argue when you find it to be PMD!
In this day and age of the internet, nothing prevents folks from finding most info needed via google and such. Use them. Come to the forum with your find at least having idea how car tracks were made at the mint, so you can express your concerns and be told No, just freeway dreck.
Do you think anyone that comes here totally unprepared gets pampered? No way. I've collected coins for 68 years and still get beat up on occasion and some of the time I deserve it, as I well know to research first, ask second. I hope you let this be informative as it is meant and stick around and take advantage of all the material made available to the credit of the age you are in, as many here did not get to enjoy starting out. Best of luck to you and I hope you stick around.
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Hello, welcome to our forum. You were told of the error in the person's name and you choose NOT to correct that simple error that would make your post title sensible.
I'll admit I opened that thread just to see what Pasty something you were even referring to.
Show respect and you may receive it back to you.
This is really unfortunate, and inaccurate. I clearly recall mailing you a Red Book, at my own time and expense, in response to a post you made last year.
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Apparently member @Fraz was banned sometime after posting to this thread. That's odd.
If I recall correctly, I believe @Fraz might have started a thread earlier today that perhaps wasn't exactly polite toward the PCGS moderation team and it appears that the thread is gone, too.
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It was due to his spirited response to the Juneteenth thread. Those kinds of threads often bring down good members. That's one of the goals of the trolls who start them.
Bummer!
The moderators response to that thread was pretty strange. They pushed a message of tolerance, when the issue was blatant racism that riled up a lot of people.
I get the impression Fraz got banned for calling their moderating bad while using a curse word.
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Yes. But it really wasn't a necessary thread to start. He could have contacted the mods privately. He chose to call them out publicly. That was neither necessary or advisable.
Personally, i don't think we need tighter moderation. If PCGS is expected to moderate this board 24/7, they are more likely to just shut it down.
Is is really a paid advertisement in the books, or is it simply a recommendation?
If it is a recommendation by the book author,
their incentive to be accurate was done when you paid money to buy the books.
Maybe you should ask the book author why they made the recommendation.
We had nothing to do with it. We are unpaid volunteers.
These authors prey on people who have the fantasy that their spare change is loaded with high value "error" coins.
You are one of their victims.
When I had a website, I would get some of the most simpleton type of questions that could be easily answered through a search on the internet. I would direct them to get a certain numismatic book or tell them to search a term and for some reason, some would get pi$$ed and never return. Others would apologize. So it's really a mixed bag out there on how people respond and so life carries on, it's out of yours, my hands.
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@Matt97932, that wasn’t “just a rant”. It was an uncalled-for and misguided rant.
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I came here to make friends with people who enjoyed coins and camaraderie. We just have to recognize those who are not in it for either of those. I feel ya.
We really don't know. Maybe it provided the OP therapeutic relief.
Even if so, it was still uncalled-for and misguided.
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I must have missed all the excitement. Bummer about Fraz, I liked that guy.
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I am disappointed that the OP feels this way. I believe this to be the absolute best coin forum available anywhere, ever!
I am always happy when I am able to help someone out on here whether it’s on a thread or in a Private message.
I love this hobby and enjoy when I can help someone else out.
I hope the OP sticks around and gets through this time of difficulty.
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I like to think of internet forums like a 1880's wild west bar. There's a chance you might get beat up, shot or robbed if you don't watch yourself, euphemistically of course. Have thick skin, stay cool, and have a drink. No need to get riled up over small stuff.
Interesting rant. I guess.
I came here after giving up on the forum run by the other guys, which I found to be an unpleasant place to hang out. I've been here for a couple of years now, and I find it to be, generally, a very hospitable place, with an astonishing amount of knowledge that people are generous in sharing.
I haven't seen any of OP's posts, so I cannot comment on them specifically. But I can infer a bit from what has been said on this thread. And the kind of post that is most likely to become unpleasant for an OP is when OP has a common coin that OP believes, dearly, is valuable, and argues with actual experts who assure him/her/them that the coin is not particularly valuable. Those never end well.
Anyway, if you want to have fun here, learn as much as you can, and don't take yourself so seriously.
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@Matt97932 . I have bought 4 coin books that has Collectors Universe advertised as the go-to place for real professional help and advice. you are going to treat people why advertise this in the coin books as the go-to place to come
Could you clarify what coin books you purchased and who mentioned to come here?