Wow! Quarter looks like gold!
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Nice gold toning on it, but here is the only gold Washington Quarter known!
Last year I got a couple nice rolls of Kennedys from someone at the Denver Coin Club with some beautiful gold toning on the enders...but nothing like that quarter!
Also a bunch of my Westward Journey nickels U.S. Mint rolls have toned a truly beautiful gold on some of the enders.
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1970 quarter overstruck on an 1898 $5 – how does something like that happen? Is this one of those notorious instances of mint shenanigans?
Super cool, regardless.
Wonder how much that 1970 gold quarter sold for? That's truly rare. is it intentional made?
That gold quarter is amazing Mike! Glad it has your pedigree!
It belongs in a top set of Washington Quarters!
How could it not be, do you see what it was struck over?
Looks beautiful. It's toned and not plated?
Nice to see the TrueView!
Do you know who owns this now?
Toned per our hosts!
I currently have it in my collection.
Congrats! It's a beautiful coin!
Is that 1970 quarter struck on an 1898 half eagle really a true "mint error" or was it a "piece de caprice" intentionally fabricated by a dishonest mint employee?
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He purchased it in the NGC slab and now it’s in a PCGS holder.
Amazing unique coin!
Very nice. It's great to see it with a TrueView!
Would have been great to have a PhotoVision too
Its truly amazing that such coin exists! How can a 1898 $5 Liberty be used to strike a 1970S Washington quarter??? It can't be intentionally so what mint employee did this behind the backs of the mint? Also, I can't tell from the picture that it was a 1898 Liberty. Mike - would love to have lunch with you to discuss errors - used to collect them but moved on as I just couldn't put a story to the coin - but cool looking......
The 1898 date is on the reverse above ‘Quarter Dollar’
Here is a link to the coin on my site when it was for sale in the NGC holder:
https://mikebyers.com/unique-gold-quarter.html
Thanks Mike for the info. Again very cool!
I'm not sure why you'd fabricate an error like this and leave a large fingerprint on it. Carelessness.
That looks better than a 67.
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Much better than a 67....
I have submitted numerous proof coins dated from 1950 to 1970 recently. They are hand picked; and mostly high quality, eye appealing coins with minimal flaws. Most of them have frosted devices and mirrored fields. Some of them received a Cameo designation.
Very few of these coins graded PF 68 or higher. Some of them graded PF67 and looking at them I can see nothing that limits the coins to a 67 grade.
Looks like a very light and thin gold plating to me. I've never seen a coin with natural toning like this where the entire surface is 100% covered with such a uniform gold "toning" color.
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I had a Jefferson nickel PF68 that looked almost exactly like it, but it was more of an orange gold color. Sold it a couple years back.
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The top of Washington's head is suspicious.
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Cherry quarter!
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Let's be realistic about the 1970, there's no logical explanation for how it was legitimately struck on a gold coin from some 80 years earlier. To be plain, the coin is a fabrication. PCGS, at least in this case, should have made a reasonable assumption and not encapsulated the coin.
Yes, it is a Mint Made fabrication. It isn't PCGS's job to deferentiate between what is Mint fabricated and that which is "accidental". As long as it was produced at the mint, it should be encapsulated. Otherwise you go down a long road with many other coins in the path of determination. Let the buyer/owner figure out the value once it is slabbed.
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Some closer views of the golden toned quarter. Color changes around much of periphery. Thin scratch?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed
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@braddick said: Yes, it is a Mint Made fabrication.
Since we agree on that, and I'd presume PCGS does as well, what differentiates the coin from a counterfeit?? I see it as a Mint made counterfeit.
No different than the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel which sells in the millions of dollars.
▶️Even the Smithsonian admits that the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel was a ‘scam’ and ‘spirited out of the Mint’!!!!
https://www.si.edu/object/5-cents-united-states-1913:nmah_835247
Or, if we want to go a step farther, what differentiates it from a US Mint product that has been altered with a (former) US Mint press? In other words, that 1970 proof "error" Washington quarter is kind of a private, in-house version of a Dan Carr overstrike.
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PCGS doesn't, along with probably a large majority of collectors and dealers.
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Obviously the market disagrees with you!
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@Byers of course the market disagrees with me! It always has in cases such as the fantasy 1970-S WQ and that's okay. It's a big market and I don't have to agree with everything the TPGs, other dealers or collectors like or believe. It's all good.
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Yes it’s a big market and it’s all good!
Ahhhh. . . man.
I thought this was going to get into a big 'ol fight but instead you guys decided to be gentlemen and turn this into a respectful disagreement.
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Those unique intentionally made coins always sell high in market. These two just sold by SB. The first one both PCGS and NGC did not even want to grade it.
Yes, it’s not just intentionally made U.S. unique mint errors that bring record prices!
The market is strong for Chinese and Canadian intentionally made pieces as well!
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Okay, I agree, it doesn't look like toning...more of an even plating...so why would PCGS call it toned??
The difference is there is more mystery mystique and history with the 1913 Nickel. By the way the 1958 Double Die cent is most definitely a mint made shenanigan as how come only 3 are known?
Zoins mint error threads and Byers's minterrornews are my favor reads. I think every serious collector should has at least couple Mint Error in his collection. I has some in my collection.
PCGS graded it because it isn't plated, it's simply toned a rather uniform gold.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
It is not even a mint error.
Well then, it's amazing for a toned quarter and quite a beautiful standout!! How does a coin tone so perfectly on both sides?