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Can I get some grade opinions?

Hi everyone. I’m new to collecting and am attempting to learn how to grade the best I can. I sent some coins in to PCGS to be graded just so I can have some in hand to compare. I’ve been trying to handle as many as possible to work on it, and have read as much as I could on the forum as well. But I thought maybe I would post a coin I got this week as a way to quickly test myself against some pros.
Please excuse the photos. Not long enough into the hobby to get myself a great camera set up, but I tried to catch every angle so that most of the details and flaws could be seen.
I’d appreciate anyone’s thoughts. Thanks!









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    The photos appear to show polish. This would indicate the coin was “cleaned.” That’s what I’m seeing anywhere. Pics can be misleading.

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 16, 2024 9:22PM

    Welcome to the boards.

    Your coin appears to be a cleaned and dipped "AU details" coin. My unofficial term for such abuse is to say the coin was "boinked", and not in a good way.

    YMMV

    While I understand your attempt (and enthusiasm) that we can see it all at different angles, I respect what @relicsncoins said about number of images. No need to go overboard. One or two of each side is quite enough usually.


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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just to echo from above, one photo of the obv and rev, cropped, in focus, taken straight on, and properly oriented is all that is needed. Your photos have a lot of glare and make it difficult to read the surfaces, from these photos the coin looks polished or whizzed. Unc details is the best I can say for a grade.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2024 11:25AM

    MS60 at best - face badly scratched up.

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    1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58 cleaned

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned.

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    DropdaflagDropdaflag Posts: 774 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree wit all above. Looks cleaned, judging from the pics.

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You might see CoinFacts.

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    nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum!
    It’s hard to tell from these photos if the coin is polished as the lighting is very hard. No need to post more though.
    I’m in the MS-60 or 61 camp if it’s not polished.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it will get a straight grade because the surfaces have been moved around. The fourth picture from the bottom shows a frosty spot around the letters "RIB" in "LIBERTY" and shiny parts elsewhere. That indicates polishing or whizzing. The revere surfaces have a grainy, unnatural look to them.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few more photos and I could say for sure, but I will go 58 cleaned and banged up.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not casting aspersions, but I really can't tell a lot from your photos. For one, if the background you're shooting against is white... the white balance on your camera needs adjustment. That said: Ms. Liberty's cheek and obverse fields have a bunch of hits (a prime focal area for Morgan Dollars) that would limit it to low MS (61/62 max) but the surfaces seem altered so grading this one would be a non-starter for me.

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    goldengolden Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What do you think it would grade?

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Howdy and welcome.

    Multiple folks have mentioned what type of images to post in order to get the most information across in the least amount of images. However, I have not seen someone show an example for you in the event that their written descriptions were not clear. Typically, a straight-on or head-on image is best and usually one image is fine for each side of the coin. Also, where you place your lights and the white balance is incredibly important. You don't need expensive equipment for this, but after you take an image you should look at it and determine if it is good enough for others to give an opinion when they have not yet seen the coin.

    Something simple like this can work well for conveying information-

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