No longer just "CC"'s, new "O" mm CN counterfeit "Morgan" Morgan...

burfle23

A member of one of my FB groups reported this one; 1st "O" mint-marked example I have seen from the CN counterfeiter.

I note a couple of possible pick-up points for these, as new dated examples can only be a matter of time.

Best, Jack.

burfle23

Gen coin/ slab:

lilolme

The fake appears to have the wrong reverse. Appears to be C4 and should be C3. Check the gap and feather in the eagles left wing (viewers right) and neck.

There was a fake 1886 O that had a P mint obverse and a C4 reverse when it should have been C3. Was a fairly good fake. Here is the link to the comment when the owner got the coin a photographed it. It does not appear to have the above noted 'markers'.

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13265611/#Comment_13265611

On a side note: The bar code is incorrect and a few other things about the slab.

coinbuf

I often think that your posts and efforts to expose these counterfeits go unrecognized. I know that I appreciate your efforts and always learn something from these posts.

burfle23

@coinbuf said:
I often think that your posts and efforts to expose these counterfeits go unrecognized. I know that I appreciate your efforts and always learn something from these posts.

Thank you; I pretty much feel the same way here, but I keep plugging along. I have other forums more interested in participating on posts and counterfeit research than here.

AUandAG

this coin has been around for ages. Well, at least 5 years that I know of.
bob

burfle23

2nd one showed up on the internet yesterday...

TxCollector

Having “Morgan” on the slab should be the easiest clue shouldn’t it? That’s only seen on 1921 dates. No need to even look for tells on the coin itself.

AUandAG

The / between the DO in dollar might be a good pick up point, besides the slab.
bob

Namvet69

I appreciate your efforts a lot!

dsessom

A dead give-away on both above examples are the 4 prong gasket that was used. PCGS does not use 4 prong gaskets - they are 3 prong or no prongs.

WAYNEAS

Thank you for posting.
Wayne

MsMorrisine

i'm wondering if future counterfeits of same will have the same "marks" on the face

CRHer700

@dsessom said:
A dead give-away on both above examples are the 4 prong gasket that was used. PCGS does not use 4 prong gaskets - they are 3 prong or no prongs.

Interesting that the original example made it through imaging at Heritage.

dsessom

@CRHer700 said:

@dsessom said:
A dead give-away on both above examples are the 4 prong gasket that was used. PCGS does not use 4 prong gaskets - they are 3 prong or no prongs.

Interesting that the original example made it through imaging at Heritage.

The real one imaged at Heritage, actually does have three prongs as it should.

CRHer700

@dsessom said:

@CRHer700 said:

@dsessom said:
A dead give-away on both above examples are the 4 prong gasket that was used. PCGS does not use 4 prong gaskets - they are 3 prong or no prongs.

Interesting that the original example made it through imaging at Heritage.

The real one imaged at Heritage, actually does have three prongs as it should.

Oh, I see.

burfle23

Currently on MyCollect:

MsMorrisine

interesting who cross posted it

flyguyfl

A ton of knowledge is exposed here people. Thanks for the information.