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ldhairldhair Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

Any reason to not crack this one out?

Larry

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess it depends upon what your plan is once it's cracked out.

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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I plan to send it to PCGS.

    Larry

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    DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2024 10:31AM

    What is the risk of QC here? Did those holders have any similar effects that the PCI holders had?

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    early green label PCI was the same as Hallmark which they bought out - there is a possibility of QC at PCGS

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    Insider3Insider3 Posts: 260 ✭✭✭

    If I remember, the Hallmark label had their name in the border.

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2024 11:02AM

    I see some verdigris growing between 9-10:00.
    How does the grade look in hand?
    The images look pretty good.
    Will it cross at 63 or is there a chance of an upgrade?
    If you feel confident then crack it out and submit it!
    Good luck with it.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would leave it alone, some risk of QC as grading is so subjective.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I owned it I would leave it. When time to sell ask your price others will see that it’s premium coin

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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider3 said:
    If I remember, the Hallmark label had their name in the border.

    Yes. I never noticed that. On the reverse of the label it has the HALLMARK logo and still using the 10 digit serial number.

    Larry

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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks all. I won't feel bad about cracking it out. It may get QC but it needs to be in a better holder to ever do anything with it.
    I'll post the results.

    Larry

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would never crack out that coin.
    Please remember that I do not sell coins so I am not in it for profit.
    Wayne

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    SouthcountySouthcounty Posts: 631 ✭✭✭✭

    I buy them when I find them, usually the Hallmark holders seem to bring some premium to slab collectors who need one for their odd holder sets. The grading usually seems very fair to conservative, although the conservative ones might have long since been cracked. I hate to see that holder go, but it does make the few remaining ones that much rarer. Good luck!

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    LuxorLuxor Posts: 410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would in a heartbeat pay what that coin would typically for sell for in a pcgs holder at that grade assuming the Hallmark holder is intact and undamaged.

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    spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan13 said:
    I see some verdigris growing between 9-10:00.
    How does the grade look in hand?
    The images look pretty good.
    Will it cross at 63 or is there a chance of an upgrade?
    If you feel confident then crack it out and submit it!
    Good luck with it.

    I see no verdigris, can you elaborate?


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    spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ldhair said:

    @Insider3 said:
    If I remember, the Hallmark label had their name in the border.

    Yes. I never noticed that. On the reverse of the label it has the HALLMARK logo and still using the 10 digit serial number.

    Larry, based on the comments here I would get more advice from some of the experts (Ian Russell, Mark Feld), b4 doing the crack out.............

    Best, SH


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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm going to wait on cracking this one. It's worth a bit more study.

    Larry

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just had a Questionable Color grade pop on this Morgan that was in an early PCI green label gem. The orange/pink color is frequently seen on PCI coins. The only PCI I see frequently straight graded is ASEs.

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    Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    I only have 1 hallmark slab, a 1914-D Lincoln cent graded VF20 that is a 30 or 35 coin. I will leave it in the Hallmark slab as it's worth more to me as a 20 in a rare slab than a higher grade in a common PCGS or NGC slab.

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    SouthcountySouthcounty Posts: 631 ✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I just had a Questionable Color grade pop on this Morgan that was in an early PCI green label gem. The orange/pink color is frequently seen on PCI coins. The only PCI I see frequently straight graded is ASEs.

    I have had several of those old PCI holders turn crazy colors. I remember when I bought them and they were all white, even the label said 100% white, which some of the early ones indicated. Pretty funny to see the holder say 100% white and now it has crazy tone, which for some was attractive but for others was not so much.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ldhair said:
    I'm going to wait on cracking this one. It's worth a bit more study.

    Larry I do not know if you are on Facebook or not but there is a vintage holder group on there. I have seen several holders like these Hallmarks and others selling in that group. My point is that today there are other options available to you when it comes to selling coins in some of those old or unusual holders as opposed to the only option of cracking/crossing to P or N in years past.

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    seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf do you know if old David lawrence coin holders are desired? I have several and had planned on having them converted to PCGS holders. any info appreciated. james

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seatedlib3991 said:
    @coinbuf do you know if old David lawrence coin holders are desired? I have several and had planned on having them converted to PCGS holders. any info appreciated. james

    They have some premium, especially for more common coins. If it’s a high dollar coin, then the premium tends to go away.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seatedlib3991 said:
    @coinbuf do you know if old David lawrence coin holders are desired? I have several and had planned on having them converted to PCGS holders. any info appreciated. james

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    seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭

    My coins are all Seated Half dollars. No key dates but some better dates like 39ND, 39, and 67.
    James

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seatedlib3991 said:
    My coins are all Seated Half dollars. No key dates but some better dates like 39ND, 39, and 67.
    James

    I don't see those come up too often but yes, in my experience, often they do get a bit of a premium over a generic new PCGS or NGC holder. By the time you consider the costs to cross (unless one is a real good upgrade candidate) you will likely come out ahead by selling in the current holder. It is all about finding the right market/marketplace for those.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass

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    lermishlermish Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Pass

    Just an astoundingly insightful and thoughtful contribution.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sell it to the people that go nuts over old holders and buy a nicer one.

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    knovak1976knovak1976 Posts: 222 ✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    Sell it to the people that go nuts over old holders and buy a nicer one.

    If you have a Regency holder you don’t particularly like let me know and ‘I’ll take it off your hands…regardless of the coin in it. 😉

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