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Counterfeit Detection Seminar at January 2024 FUN Convention
BillJones
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I am scheduled to give a counterfeit detection seminar at the 2024 FUN show. It will be at 11:45 AM on Thursday, January 4.The emphasis will be on how to spot counterfeit coins in counterfeit slabs on-line. There will be handout so that you can use my tips on your computer, cell phone and iPad at home and at the shows.
I hope to meet you there!
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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Do you know if anyone is taping it to upload on internet somewhere?
Would love to attend but unfortunately, I'm not going to FUN. Would be nice to have this recorded and uploaded to reach more people.
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Wish I could attend; would love to see the material if there is a handout is available for those of us who can't attend at some time.
Great topic. I'll be there.
My thoughts exactly. Please let us know. This is an important issue. Peace Roy
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Hopefully someday I can attend to listen to this....very interested...maybe think about doing a webinar?
Anyone get the handouts?
I will try to post an attachment here next week.
Next time why not record it and post on YouTube?
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it might be recorded - here is a page and links to previous years seminars (there are some very good ones, if you have the time)
funtopics.com/Education.html
Cool link @davewesen ! May take a bit for the 2024 seminars.
i recently visited a coin dealer to the north of me and he was mighty proud of his newly purchased walker collection ... all generally the same color, all generally the same grade ... i didnt have the heart to tell him ...
Here is the handout I gave at the end of the presentation. Here are the important points:
• Go to the certification verification pages at PCGS and NGC.
• Enter the serial number on the slab.
• If the response comes back "invalid serial number," there is probably a problem. There is an outside chance that the slab label has a mechanical error, but that is very unusual.
• If you get a response PCGS and NGC verification responses will have pictures of the coin or the slab for newer slabs.
• If there are no pictures, PCGS might have one or more citations where the item has been sold in a major auction. The auction site will have pictures.
• If the item in the slab does not match the picture, it is probably a counterfeit.
• If you get no pictures or auction responses, you can got to PCGS Coin Facts to compare the item with pictures of genuine coins. This is not as good as getting a pictures of the actual coin in the slab.
• Jack D. Young has posted many pictures of counterfeits with tips on how to spot them under his name in the “CoinWeek” site. You may got there to sharper your eye for spotting counterfeits.
Was the lecture recorded or added to youtube? I would love to hear that.
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Thank you @BillJones .
FUN has put up videos of the educational forums they have run in the past. I am sure they will do that again. My presentation was taped.
I attended this presentation and I’m glad I did. Bill did an excellent job describing many different counterfeits. Thanks, Bill!
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Thanks Bill, I would have loved to make it down to FUN and your seminar. A real important topic! I'll definitely check out the video when/if it becomes available. Your insights and collection are always worth checking out.
Mark
recording showed up on Newman Numismatic Portal
https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/635307
Thanks @davewesen !
Bill, thanks for taking the time and trouble to do this.
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@BillJones , really enjoyed watching the video. Thanks for the kind words as well.
Jack
Thank you @BillJones , really appreciate you taking the time to share your video link. I only wish I had the opportunity to see the live presentation and get the chance to meet you in person. You are an asset to the hobby and this forum as well.
Mark
I also attended and was sitting close to Richie, I think we both really enjoyed Bill's professional presentation. Watch the vid, very informative.
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Looking forward to viewing this.