@rnkmyer1 said:
Rick Snow reports the coin below is the toughest in the entire IHC series. I saw a XF45 years ago that was not designated. This one’s the only MS example known @ 64RB.
Bro! The 7 touches 1! Yes, that IS the toughest in the whole series. I have never even seen one.
For my finale 1/0. I’ve been encouraged by collectors I know to consider patterns (thanks Doug, Matt, Rick). I did & decided I’m one & done. But, it’s special:
@rnkmyer1 said:
For my finale 1/0. I’ve been encouraged by collectors I know to consider patterns (thanks Doug, Matt, Rick). I did & decided I’m one & done. But, it’s special:
@rnkmyer1 said:
Anyone who has the good fortune to own one knows what a special feeling it gives. I just acquired this one from the legendary Stewart Blay’s GC auction.
Ken,
Your’s is extremely beautiful and has PL surfaces. The die crack from 6:00 to 3:00 is a marker for a group of 1857 FE’s that have PL surfaces.
Yes, you are correct. Those 1858 LL’s are really beautiful too! There was a hoard of those 1858’s that came from the NE. The most PL 1857’s I ever saw were a couple of S-1’s that had a lot of die polishing.
I happen to have one of those. The crack is actually two that meet + they’re a little bit right to where the 1857 runs.
This one was in Don Kelley’s transit set.
Today I’m breaking my criteria one time on this thread. The coin below is one I don’t own, but I think it’s so special & nice I wanted to post it. It’s a 1/0 & a discovery piece. A 1857 PR64 S-5! And, a beauty besides. A BIG congrats to my collector friend Phil on his fantastic discovery. He’s a real FE enthusiast besides!
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I included images of three coins graded by our Host.
The Australian 1919 1d DDO/DDR is to the best of my knowledge the only example graded by PCGS and was likely a discovery coin. It is perhaps one of the most compelling coins that exhibits both obverse and reverse doubling that I have seen. I am at a loss how this could remain undiscovered for such an extended period of time.
This Churchill DDR remains the only one graded by PCGS- perhaps this error is more difficult to locate than previously thought.
Then we have the Charles II Crown which is is highest graded by our host.
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Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
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Well, all I can say is I made a mistake on the post mr. @oakstar. If you want to roast me for that, sobeit. I don’t answer baited hypotheticals, and you know the answer to your own question anyway.
@DMWJR said:
Well, all I can say is I made a mistake on the post mr. @oakstar. If you want to roast me for that, sobeit. I don’t answer baited hypotheticals, and you know the answer to your own question anyway.
I'm not criticizing your mistake. I don't care about your mistake. I'm not playing games here. I'm asking you a legitimate question. I don't know the answer. I'm asking you your opinion.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
Obviously if it was the only one graded it would be a 1/0 no matter what the grade is. It is also a top pop 1/0 if there were a 1000 graded lower but none higher.
I am assuming for this thread when Matt is asking for pop 1/0 coins he is referring to pop 1 coins with none graded higher in their designated group, be it Cameo, Deep , Cameo, RD, RB, BN, FB, etc.
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Some incredible coins showing up here but this one leaves me blank.
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
Obviously if it was the only one graded it would be a 1/0 no matter what the grade is. It is also a top pop 1/0 if there were a 1000 graded lower but none higher.
Got it. That's the reality check I was looking for. Thanks @robec
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
Obviously if it was the only one graded it would be a 1/0 no matter what the grade is. It is also a top pop 1/0 if there were a 1000 graded lower but none higher.
I am assuming for this thread when Matt is asking for pop 1/0 coins he is referring to pop 1 coins with none graded higher in their designated group, be it Cameo, Deep , Cameo, RD, RB, BN, FB, etc.
Maybe the confusion was created since the first coin posted in this thread is a 2/0.
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
Obviously if it was the only one graded it would be a 1/0 no matter what the grade is. It is also a top pop 1/0 if there were a 1000 graded lower but none higher.
I am assuming for this thread when Matt is asking for pop 1/0 coins he is referring to pop 1 coins with none graded higher in their designated group, be it Cameo, Deep , Cameo, RD, RB, BN, FB, etc.
Maybe the confusion was created since the first coin posted in this thread is a 2/0.
It can be a bit confusing. Plus, the added + and CAC grading. I've compared pop/census reports across all TPG'ers. Taking it to another level.. In a perfect world, it would be nice to have an official or unofficial designator to indicate where our coins grade compared to all the other TPG'ers.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
Obviously if it was the only one graded it would be a 1/0 no matter what the grade is. It is also a top pop 1/0 if there were a 1000 graded lower but none higher.
I am assuming for this thread when Matt is asking for pop 1/0 coins he is referring to pop 1 coins with none graded higher in their designated group, be it Cameo, Deep , Cameo, RD, RB, BN, FB, etc.
Maybe the confusion was created since the first coin posted in this thread is a 2/0.
It can be a bit confusing. Plus, the added + and CAC grading. I've compared pop/census reports across all TPG'ers. Taking it to another level.. In a perfect world, it would be nice to have an official or unofficial designator to indicate where our coins grade compared to all the other TPG'ers.
Again I could be mistaken but I took him to mean pop 1/0 with the company it is graded with. I don’t have an answer why Matt’s is a 2/0 unless the second one was recently made.
@DMWJR said:
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
Obviously if it was the only one graded it would be a 1/0 no matter what the grade is. It is also a top pop 1/0 if there were a 1000 graded lower but none higher.
I am assuming for this thread when Matt is asking for pop 1/0 coins he is referring to pop 1 coins with none graded higher in their designated group, be it Cameo, Deep , Cameo, RD, RB, BN, FB, etc.
Maybe the confusion was created since the first coin posted in this thread is a 2/0.
It can be a bit confusing. Plus, the added + and CAC grading. I've compared pop/census reports across all TPG'ers. Taking it to another level.. In a perfect world, it would be nice to have an official or unofficial designator to indicate where our coins grade compared to all the other TPG'ers.
Again I could be mistaken but I took him to mean pop 1/0 with the company it is graded with. I don’t have an answer why Matt’s is a 2/0 unless the second one was recently made.
Yes, that's very possible. A second one may have been recently graded.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Again I could be mistaken but I took him to mean pop 1/0 with the company it is graded with. I don’t have an answer why Matt’s is a 2/0 unless the second one was recently made.
Cool! That means this coin is a 1/0, even though there is a raw coin out there that has less wear.
And I just found out tonight that this went from a 1/0 to a 2/0, so I get a Mulligan.
Again I could be mistaken but I took him to mean pop 1/0 with the company it is graded with. I don’t have an answer why Matt’s is a 2/0 unless the second one was recently made.
Cool! That means this coin is a 1/0, even though there is a raw coin out there that has less wear.
And I just found out tonight that this went from a 1/0 to a 2/0, so I get a Mulligan.
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Bro! The 7 touches 1! Yes, that IS the toughest in the whole series. I have never even seen one.
Empty Nest Collection
Matt’s Mattes
ANACS pop 1/0
Ex-Pittman.
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Single highest but only 3 graded by PCGS...
And it becomes a little easier for a Top Pop when there is only one Piece in Private hands
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Nice score ⭐️
My first thought would have been: to much meat on that bone. But what do I know. Congratulation! Nice snag!! 👍🏻
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Except it's the opposite of what this thread is about. Pop 1 with 0 better, not pop 1 with lots better.
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Pop 1 for the grade at PCGS.
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Ken
1857 FE S-2 401b MS 65+. Not sure which die pair; I believe there are 5. Nice piece!
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I would have paid for the TrueView photos, but I didn't think it would get top pop.
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/47109635
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For my finale 1/0. I’ve been encouraged by collectors I know to consider patterns (thanks Doug, Matt, Rick). I did & decided I’m one & done. But, it’s special:
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
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Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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I have multiple 1/0 CWTs ...
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Ken, that is a bad-a$$ coin! Well done!
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That is a Beauty!!!!
Such a beautiful rare coin!!!
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Just bought this yesterday!
1935E Silver Certificate "Gutter Fold" Error.
PCGS F15 Graded.
POP 1
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Ken,
Your’s is extremely beautiful and has PL surfaces. The die crack from 6:00 to 3:00 is a marker for a group of 1857 FE’s that have PL surfaces.
@DMWJR: good info Doug. I’ve noted a similar crack on a handful of 1858 LL’s that were considered PL years ago. Didn’t know that about 1857….
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Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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Yes, you are correct. Those 1858 LL’s are really beautiful too! There was a hoard of those 1858’s that came from the NE. The most PL 1857’s I ever saw were a couple of S-1’s that had a lot of die polishing.
I happen to have one of those. The crack is actually two that meet + they’re a little bit right to where the 1857 runs.
This one was in Don Kelley’s transit set.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
1866 S-1 66RD. Ex:Castle. The finest known of this tough 4* variety.
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Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
1865 Fancy 5 S-2 64RB. Pop 1/0. Awesome variety!
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1871 Shallow N 65BN. POP 1/0. A nice BN can’t be overlooked!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Today I’m breaking my criteria one time on this thread. The coin below is one I don’t own, but I think it’s so special & nice I wanted to post it. It’s a 1/0 & a discovery piece. A 1857 PR64 S-5! And, a beauty besides. A BIG congrats to my collector friend Phil on his fantastic discovery. He’s a real FE enthusiast besides!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Lets go @Joeykoins! Great error!
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This one belongs to me. It graded MS64.
I recall only 4 have been graded, with this one being the only one graded MS.
From the recent Blay auction:
MS67+ Pointed Bust 1/0
I included images of three coins graded by our Host.
The Australian 1919 1d DDO/DDR is to the best of my knowledge the only example graded by PCGS and was likely a discovery coin. It is perhaps one of the most compelling coins that exhibits both obverse and reverse doubling that I have seen. I am at a loss how this could remain undiscovered for such an extended period of time.
This Churchill DDR remains the only one graded by PCGS- perhaps this error is more difficult to locate than previously thought.
Then we have the Charles II Crown which is is highest graded by our host.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Can you explain this to me? What does 1/0 mean to you?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Yes, my copy/paste technique has some flaws
The 1896 is a 12/0. The coin I wanted to post, an 1892 MS67 1/0 did not have a TruView so I changed my mind and tried to edit the image to another coin.
How about this one instead? It wasn’t from the Blay estate though.
MS68 1/0
Okay, thanks. Yes, your 1896 is a 12/0. I was just a little confused about these designators. So hypothetically, if you had a coin that was the "only" one graded (non higher non lower, the only one list), it would still be a 1/0?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Well, all I can say is I made a mistake on the post mr. @oakstar. If you want to roast me for that, sobeit. I don’t answer baited hypotheticals, and you know the answer to your own question anyway.
I'm not criticizing your mistake. I don't care about your mistake. I'm not playing games here. I'm asking you a legitimate question. I don't know the answer. I'm asking you your opinion.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Obviously if it was the only one graded it would be a 1/0 no matter what the grade is. It is also a top pop 1/0 if there were a 1000 graded lower but none higher.
I am assuming for this thread when Matt is asking for pop 1/0 coins he is referring to pop 1 coins with none graded higher in their designated group, be it Cameo, Deep , Cameo, RD, RB, BN, FB, etc.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Some incredible coins showing up here but this one leaves me blank.
Got it. That's the reality check I was looking for. Thanks @robec
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Top pop chopmarked trade dollar for the entire series for all of CACG. (Also, the first and only one graded
)
Chopmarked Trade Dollar Registry Set --- US & World Gold Showcase --- World Chopmark Showcase
Maybe the confusion was created since the first coin posted in this thread is a 2/0.
It can be a bit confusing. Plus, the added + and CAC grading. I've compared pop/census reports across all TPG'ers. Taking it to another level.. In a perfect world, it would be nice to have an official or unofficial designator to indicate where our coins grade compared to all the other TPG'ers.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Again I could be mistaken but I took him to mean pop 1/0 with the company it is graded with. I don’t have an answer why Matt’s is a 2/0 unless the second one was recently made.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Yes, that's very possible. A second one may have been recently graded.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
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Cool! That means this coin is a 1/0, even though there is a raw coin out there that has less wear.
And I just found out tonight that this went from a 1/0 to a 2/0, so I get a Mulligan.
Love that cathedral..
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
And how about this rim-ding special as a "Top Pop" 1/0 for the WB-1 die marriage? It's been the PCGS "champ" now for 1.5 years.
