Will Belichick get fired this season?

4for4

🤔

craig44

Not a chance

nope, not going to happen. he will hang on until he gets the wins record. you can bank on it.

doubledragon

Not a chance

No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@doubledragon said:
No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

perkdog

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

I think he will retire if the team gets worse, definitely not fired

For clarity on my vote

doubledragon

Not a chance

@4for4 said:

@doubledragon said:
No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

Yeah but Landry didn't win 6, no way they fire Belichick after 6 Super Bowls.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@doubledragon said:

@4for4 said:

@doubledragon said:
No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

Yeah but Landry didn't win 6, no way they fire Belichick after 6 Super Bowls.

100% correct.
However I tend to believe Landry was even more revered in Dallas then Belichick in NE. Just a guess.

craig44

Not a chance

there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

perkdog

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

craig44

Not a chance

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

I have been wanting BB the GM to step down for a very very long time. our drafts have not been good overall for a while now and some of the players he has brought in just leave me scratching my head. Zeke, Sanu a few years ago. I dont get it.

As a coach, I dont think BB has completely lost it. his teams are still prepared to play. He can still take a teams biggest weapon away (look at how he controlled Tyreke sunday) and he can still come up with some inovative plays ( the blocked field goal)

what he cant do is go out on the field and execute his game plans. only the players can do that, and we dont have the players that are necessary. That is because the GM has done a poor job.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

I have been wanting BB the GM to step down for a very very long time. our drafts have not been good overall for a while now and some of the players he has brought in just leave me scratching my head. Zeke, Sanu a few years ago. I dont get it.

As a coach, I dont think BB has completely lost it. his teams are still prepared to play. He can still take a teams biggest weapon away (look at how he controlled Tyreke sunday) and he can still come up with some inovative plays ( the blocked field goal)

what he cant do is go out on the field and execute his game plans. only the players can do that, and we dont have the players that are necessary. That is because the GM has done a poor job.

This is why Chuck Knoll at 4-0, the best undefeated Super Bowl coach ever, and the best draft picker ever, will always have every other head coach beat.

Belichick 6-2 and average drafting.
Knoll 4-0 and well above average drafting.

galaxy27

🏾 Ridethelightning

as long as Allen, Tua and (perhaps) Rodgers are around, his days of winning the division (let alone championships) are over. so what's the endgame? it's gotta be the record, then he walks off into the sunset.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@galaxy27 said:
🏾 Ridethelightning

as long as Allen, Tua and (perhaps) Rodgers are around, his days of winning the division (let alone championships) are over. so what's the endgame? it's gotta be the record, then he walks off into the sunset.

If he stays below 6 or 7 wins this year and next year I feel he’s done.

stevek

Not a chance

Head coaches with past winning records for a team, even some Super Bowl wins or appearances, usually get fired for losing control of the team.

With the Cowboys and Landry situation, Jerry Jones likely would have fired Landry anyway because he wanted his then buddy Jimmy Johnson as the head coach. However the fact is that Landry had lost control of the team, which made the firing decision very easy.

Different circumstance, but same reason, Andy Reid got fired from the Eagles for losing control of the team.

I recall when Andy Reid was at his peak for the Eagles, and a reporter asked the owner Jeff Lurie if Andy Reid would be his head coach for life? I think the question caught Lurie off guard just a little bit, but Lurie responded with basically a definitive yes. Well so much for that promise, when Andy lost control of the team.

I would imagine that the same may be true of most head coaches, when as mentioned they get fired. Basically discord in the locker room amongst the players because of losing that seems to be getting worse. And that discord manifests itself on the playing field in a number of ways in lack of focus and/or effort.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

Yes Stevek, all great coaches can have short leashes.

BillJones

He will retire at the end of this year to make it more dignified

By the looks of this team, it’s going to go 0-6 in the division. If they don’t do much better outside of the division, Belichick will not want to embarrass himself.

stevek

Not a chance

@BillJones said:
By the looks of this team, it’s going to go 0-6 in the division. If they don’t do much better outside of the division, Belichick will not want to embarrass himself.

Perhaps any other coach and I'd agree with ya.

But Belichick is obsessed with the game, and I mean that in a good way. Belichick has the attitude that the next draft or the next free agent signing, may get him back to a winning team, IE prosperity is just around the corner.

Now of course a new owner may have different ideas. But as long as Kraft owns the team, and Belichick keeps control of the team which in my view he definitely still does, I think that Belichick will continue on as long as he still has the motivation.

Besides, didn't Belichick just break-up with his long time girlfriend? I'd be sure he wishes to remain the coach and stay motivated if nothing else, just to attract and impress a new girlfriend. 👫

2dueces

Not a chance

Nah. He’ll open a restaurant and be head chef.

craig44

Not a chance

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

I have been wanting BB the GM to step down for a very very long time. our drafts have not been good overall for a while now and some of the players he has brought in just leave me scratching my head. Zeke, Sanu a few years ago. I dont get it.

As a coach, I dont think BB has completely lost it. his teams are still prepared to play. He can still take a teams biggest weapon away (look at how he controlled Tyreke sunday) and he can still come up with some inovative plays ( the blocked field goal)

what he cant do is go out on the field and execute his game plans. only the players can do that, and we dont have the players that are necessary. That is because the GM has done a poor job.

This is why Chuck Knoll at 4-0, the best undefeated Super Bowl coach ever, and the best draft picker ever, will always have every other head coach beat.

Belichick 6-2 and average drafting.
Knoll 4-0 and well above average drafting.

While I will concede that Noll was better at scouting talent, by any measure I can think of, a 6-2 Super Bowl record is worlds better than 4-0. Worlds better.

Noll missed the playoff 11 times. 4 times he was one and done. 15 times his teams were a non-factor out of 23 years as head coach. I would definitely not place him above BB. not close really.

think of it this way: BB was in the SB the same amount of times Chuck Noll made it out of the first round of the playoffs.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@craig44 said:

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

I have been wanting BB the GM to step down for a very very long time. our drafts have not been good overall for a while now and some of the players he has brought in just leave me scratching my head. Zeke, Sanu a few years ago. I dont get it.

As a coach, I dont think BB has completely lost it. his teams are still prepared to play. He can still take a teams biggest weapon away (look at how he controlled Tyreke sunday) and he can still come up with some inovative plays ( the blocked field goal)

what he cant do is go out on the field and execute his game plans. only the players can do that, and we dont have the players that are necessary. That is because the GM has done a poor job.

This is why Chuck Knoll at 4-0, the best undefeated Super Bowl coach ever, and the best draft picker ever, will always have every other head coach beat.

Belichick 6-2 and average drafting.
Knoll 4-0 and well above average drafting.

While I will concede that Noll was better at scouting talent, by any measure I can think of, a 6-2 Super Bowl record is worlds better than 4-0. Worlds better.

Noll missed the playoff 11 times. 4 times he was one and done. 15 times his teams were a non-factor out of 23 years as head coach. I would definitely not place him above BB. not close really.

think of it this way: BB was in the SB the same amount of times Chuck Noll made it out of the first round of the playoffs.

Chuck Noll had three teams with better records ahead of him in the 1970’s. Dallas, Miami, and Oakland.

Belichick had 0.

6-2 is a worse winning percentage then 4-0 all day and night.
Belichick lost as a 3 and 12 point favorite in a Bowl. That never happened to Noll.

craig44

Not a chance

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

I have been wanting BB the GM to step down for a very very long time. our drafts have not been good overall for a while now and some of the players he has brought in just leave me scratching my head. Zeke, Sanu a few years ago. I dont get it.

As a coach, I dont think BB has completely lost it. his teams are still prepared to play. He can still take a teams biggest weapon away (look at how he controlled Tyreke sunday) and he can still come up with some inovative plays ( the blocked field goal)

what he cant do is go out on the field and execute his game plans. only the players can do that, and we dont have the players that are necessary. That is because the GM has done a poor job.

This is why Chuck Knoll at 4-0, the best undefeated Super Bowl coach ever, and the best draft picker ever, will always have every other head coach beat.

Belichick 6-2 and average drafting.
Knoll 4-0 and well above average drafting.

While I will concede that Noll was better at scouting talent, by any measure I can think of, a 6-2 Super Bowl record is worlds better than 4-0. Worlds better.

Noll missed the playoff 11 times. 4 times he was one and done. 15 times his teams were a non-factor out of 23 years as head coach. I would definitely not place him above BB. not close really.

think of it this way: BB was in the SB the same amount of times Chuck Noll made it out of the first round of the playoffs.

Chuck Noll had three teams with better records ahead of him in the 1970’s. Dallas, Miami, and Oakland.

Belichick had 0.

6-2 is a worse winning percentage then 4-0 all day and night.
Belichick lost as a 3 and 12 point favorite in a Bowl. That never happened to Noll.

can you win a super bowl without making it to one? Can you make a super bowl without making it to the playoffs?

you are missing a vital, crucial piece here.

craig44

Not a chance

lets extrapolate it WAY out here. Which coach is more successful?

would it be a coach who coached 20 years, missed the playoffs in 19 of those years and won one SB for a perfect Super Bowl record of 1-0?

or

a coach who did it for 20 years, missed the playoffs only 1 time and made it to 19 super bowls and had a SB record of 10-9?

The first coach had a "perfect" Super Bowl record. The second coach was barely over .500 in the Super Bowl.

you must see what I am getting at here, right? It should be CRYSTAL clear that the second coach was FAR more successful than the first. right?

Same goes for Noll and BB. sure, Noll had a "perfect" SB record, but BB was far more successful. His teams were in the mix way more and were making it deep into the playoffs/SB a majority of the time. this should be pretty easy to grasp.

100 out of 100 coaches would rather have a 6-2 SB record than 4-0

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@craig44 said:

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

I have been wanting BB the GM to step down for a very very long time. our drafts have not been good overall for a while now and some of the players he has brought in just leave me scratching my head. Zeke, Sanu a few years ago. I dont get it.

As a coach, I dont think BB has completely lost it. his teams are still prepared to play. He can still take a teams biggest weapon away (look at how he controlled Tyreke sunday) and he can still come up with some inovative plays ( the blocked field goal)

what he cant do is go out on the field and execute his game plans. only the players can do that, and we dont have the players that are necessary. That is because the GM has done a poor job.

This is why Chuck Knoll at 4-0, the best undefeated Super Bowl coach ever, and the best draft picker ever, will always have every other head coach beat.

Belichick 6-2 and average drafting.
Knoll 4-0 and well above average drafting.

While I will concede that Noll was better at scouting talent, by any measure I can think of, a 6-2 Super Bowl record is worlds better than 4-0. Worlds better.

Noll missed the playoff 11 times. 4 times he was one and done. 15 times his teams were a non-factor out of 23 years as head coach. I would definitely not place him above BB. not close really.

think of it this way: BB was in the SB the same amount of times Chuck Noll made it out of the first round of the playoffs.

Chuck Noll had three teams with better records ahead of him in the 1970’s. Dallas, Miami, and Oakland.

Belichick had 0.

6-2 is a worse winning percentage then 4-0 all day and night.
Belichick lost as a 3 and 12 point favorite in a Bowl. That never happened to Noll.

can you win a super bowl without making it to one? Can you make a super bowl without making it to the playoffs?

you are missing a vital, crucial piece here.

As I stated, Noll had three better decade teams ahead of him.
Belichick always had the best decade teams.

Huge factor.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

craig44

Not a chance

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@4for4 said:

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
there is a standard deviation or two of greatness between Landry and BB. If anything, I believe he could get a private/behind-the-scenes nudge towards retirement from management, but not fired.

Or be a man and just walk away, in my honest opinion he is doing more harm than good at this point with his personnel decisions

I have been wanting BB the GM to step down for a very very long time. our drafts have not been good overall for a while now and some of the players he has brought in just leave me scratching my head. Zeke, Sanu a few years ago. I dont get it.

As a coach, I dont think BB has completely lost it. his teams are still prepared to play. He can still take a teams biggest weapon away (look at how he controlled Tyreke sunday) and he can still come up with some inovative plays ( the blocked field goal)

what he cant do is go out on the field and execute his game plans. only the players can do that, and we dont have the players that are necessary. That is because the GM has done a poor job.

This is why Chuck Knoll at 4-0, the best undefeated Super Bowl coach ever, and the best draft picker ever, will always have every other head coach beat.

Belichick 6-2 and average drafting.
Knoll 4-0 and well above average drafting.

While I will concede that Noll was better at scouting talent, by any measure I can think of, a 6-2 Super Bowl record is worlds better than 4-0. Worlds better.

Noll missed the playoff 11 times. 4 times he was one and done. 15 times his teams were a non-factor out of 23 years as head coach. I would definitely not place him above BB. not close really.

think of it this way: BB was in the SB the same amount of times Chuck Noll made it out of the first round of the playoffs.

Chuck Noll had three teams with better records ahead of him in the 1970’s. Dallas, Miami, and Oakland.

Belichick had 0.

6-2 is a worse winning percentage then 4-0 all day and night.
Belichick lost as a 3 and 12 point favorite in a Bowl. That never happened to Noll.

can you win a super bowl without making it to one? Can you make a super bowl without making it to the playoffs?

you are missing a vital, crucial piece here.

As I stated, Noll had three better decade teams ahead of him.
Belichick always had the best decade teams.

Huge factor.

what do you mean by "decade team" I have never heard that term. do you mean that Noll's Steelers had the 4th best record for the 70's?

If so, how on earth is that an argument for a coach's greatness?

you also didnt answer the question. Can you win a SB without making it to one? or Making the Playoffs?

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

What Noll faced in his time

BLUEJAYWAY

Not a chance

Not a chance. Unless Tom B wants the job.

Basebal21

They likely wont fire him during the season, but they very easily could have a "mutual parting of ways" in the offseason. Kraft is 82 he doesnt have time to let Belicheck spend a few years chasing a record for a records sake. This is still professional sports and the greatest coaches of all time were all fired at some point. If Kraft dies all bets are off about when the parting would happen but its on the way

LandrysFedora

Not a chance

@4for4 said:

@doubledragon said:
No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

Jerry Jones is a whole different animal. The worst owner in the league.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@LandrysFedora said:

@4for4 said:

@doubledragon said:
No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

Jerry Jones is a whole different animal. The worst owner in the league.

Did he make the wrong decisions switching Landry for JJ ?

thisistheshow

Not a chance

AFAIK

Landry had agreed to step down as coach of the Cowboys, but reneged. He stayed on. Belichick has not yet gotten to that point where there has been truly prolonged failure and he said he was leaving. Not that this is the necessary process, I'm just pointing out that we are in the middle or beginning of the downturn, however you look at it.

These down years for Belichick, in the future, will be relegated to the dustbin just like they have been for Landry. With or without the Bill vs Tom debate, Belichick's legacy is secure even with these down years.

I do think that Belichick will be criticized for hanging in too long just to get the wins record, if that is how it plays out. And I do think it will play out like that.

Tabe

Not a chance

@4for4 said:

@LandrysFedora said:

@4for4 said:

@doubledragon said:
No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

Jerry Jones is a whole different animal. The worst owner in the league.

Did he make the wrong decisions switching Landry for JJ ?

Absolutely not. Supposedly Schramm and Bright wanted to fire Landry but were afraid of the backlash so Jerry did it. The success that followed validates that decision.

stevek

Not a chance

@4for4 said:

@LandrysFedora said:

@4for4 said:

@doubledragon said:
No way he gets fired, I think they'll let him hang on as long as he wants, no way they fire him after 6 Super Bowls.

Did he make the wrong decisions switching Landry for JJ ?

There was no mistake made about that at all. Jimmy Johnson with his college football background, intimately knew the college football talent out there, and his drafting turned out to be spectacular. As an NFL head coach for the first time, Johnson adapted well to the NFL game.

The mistake made, a big mistake, was Jerry Jones years later getting rid of Jimmy Johnson. Which arguably is one of the most bonehead ownership moves with a head coach in NFL history.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

RG 3’s words. Not mine.

bronco2078

Yes, in 2023

i hopefully voted yes but i think bill has blackmail on kreepy kraft that will prevent it.

what i didnt know is that he has blackmail on half this forum also with steveK the guy farthest out on a limb apparently

stevek

Not a chance

@bronco2078 said:
i hopefully voted yes but i think bill has blackmail on kreepy kraft that will prevent it.

what i didnt know is that he has blackmail on half this forum also with steveK the guy farthest out on a limb apparently

Bill sends me a specified amount of cash by secret courier the first Monday of every month to write good things about him.

Sorry but I can't divulge the number, or he might not like that posted on a public forum.

4for4

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@bronco2078 said:
i hopefully voted yes but i think bill has blackmail on kreepy kraft that will prevent it.

what i didnt know is that he has blackmail on half this forum also with steveK the guy farthest out on a limb apparently

Bill shows up every Tuesday with this to take care of Steve’s 100 acres.

craig44

Not a chance

It is easy to pile on when the team is 1-3, but BB is not getting fired.

perkdog

Perhaps next year if the team gets worse

@craig44 said:
It is easy to pile on when the team is 1-3, but BB is not getting fired.

It's more than that though.

We haven't seen much if any improvement with Mac Jones and this is his 3rd season, the offense is an absolute disaster and literally this falls on Bill with his ridiculously stupid personal moves, let's face it he thinks he can coach anyone to win games for him and that is just not the case

craig44

Not a chance

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
It is easy to pile on when the team is 1-3, but BB is not getting fired.

It's more than that though.

We haven't seen much if any improvement with Mac Jones and this is his 3rd season, the offense is an absolute disaster and literally this falls on Bill with his ridiculously stupid personal moves, let's face it he thinks he can coach anyone to win games for him and that is just not the case

I agree that BB personal moves on offense are stupid. He has made some good moves on the defensive side. The reason Mac hasnt improved, in my opinion, is because he is just not that good.

bronco2078

Yes, in 2023

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
It is easy to pile on when the team is 1-3, but BB is not getting fired.

It's more than that though.

We haven't seen much if any improvement with Mac Jones and this is his 3rd season, the offense is an absolute disaster and literally this falls on Bill with his ridiculously stupid personal moves, let's face it he thinks he can coach anyone to win games for him and that is just not the case

I agree that BB personal moves on offense are stupid. He has made some good moves on the defensive side. The reason Mac hasnt improved, in my opinion, is because he is just not that good.

he was the 5th QB drafted in what turned out to be a bad year

craig44

Not a chance

@bronco2078 said:

@craig44 said:

@perkdog said:

@craig44 said:
It is easy to pile on when the team is 1-3, but BB is not getting fired.

It's more than that though.

We haven't seen much if any improvement with Mac Jones and this is his 3rd season, the offense is an absolute disaster and literally this falls on Bill with his ridiculously stupid personal moves, let's face it he thinks he can coach anyone to win games for him and that is just not the case

I agree that BB personal moves on offense are stupid. He has made some good moves on the defensive side. The reason Mac hasnt improved, in my opinion, is because he is just not that good.

he was the 5th QB drafted in what turned out to be a bad year

It is still amazing to me that everyone thought (me included) that draft class of QB's was going to be amazing.

boy was everyone wrong. its looking like Lawrence may be the only solid one.

stevek

Not a chance

Maybe Belichick should wait until the 6th round to draft a quarterback? 🤔

erikthredd

Not a chance

Just what this forum needs, another lame Bill Belichick poll. I'd say that there's a better chance of a previously banned Bobby Orr fan getting the axe again than Bill Belichick getting axed this season.

You also have to factor in that he's currently the highest paid HC in football at 20M a season ansd he more than likely has numerous years left on his current deal. I doubt Kraft will want to be paying that type of money for a guy no longer with the team.

bronco2078

Yes, in 2023

@erikthredd said:
Just what this forum needs, another lame Bill Belichick poll. I'd say that there's a better chance of a previously banned Bobby Orr fan getting the axe again than Bill Belichick getting axed this season.

You also have to factor in that he's currently the highest paid HC in football at 20M a season ansd he more than likely has numerous years left on his current deal. I doubt Kraft will want to be paying that type of money for a guy no longer with the team.

20 m goes a long way at orchids of asia

erikthredd

Not a chance

@bronco2078 said:

@erikthredd said:
Just what this forum needs, another lame Bill Belichick poll. I'd say that there's a better chance of a previously banned Bobby Orr fan getting the axe again than Bill Belichick getting axed this season.

You also have to factor in that he's currently the highest paid HC in football at 20M a season ansd he more than likely has numerous years left on his current deal. I doubt Kraft will want to be paying that type of money for a guy no longer with the team.

20 m goes a long way at orchids of asia

Why go all the way down to Florida when you have the TB12 facility fronting as a performance & recovery center?
The secret password is Bobby K ballin in his Air Force Ones

All that lighthouse/jumbotron construction over the summer was just so Kraft could put in a secret underground tunnel going from his office to the recovery room.

pdoidoi

Not a chance

Let me see, Bill Belichick has now has a losing record how many years in a row now. ONE. How many coaches have won more games in the NFL, ZERO.

bronco2078

Yes, in 2023

@pdoidoi said:
Let me see, Bill Belichick has now has a losing record how many years in a row now. ONE. How many coaches have won more games in the NFL, ZERO.

just a losing record whenever tom isnt here

pdoidoi

Not a chance

He won with the Giants

bronco2078

Yes, in 2023

@pdoidoi said:
He won with the Giants

he was a towel boy

pdoidoi

Not a chance

@bronco2078 said:

@pdoidoi said:
Let me see, Bill Belichick has now has a losing record how many years in a row now. ONE. How many coaches have won more games in the NFL, ZERO.

just a losing record whenever tom isnt here

And your favorite coach has how many wins or championships.