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Gorgeous 1919 FH SLQ On EBay Now. Possible Upgrade?

WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭✭
edited September 16, 2023 4:35PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Disclaimer, I have no ownership interest in this particular coin. Currently bid at $1400. I saw it on EBay today and it looks phenomenal for the grade, and the OGH. I would love to own it but unfortunately my funds don’t allow. Any opinions on the coin?

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    ExtremeengineerExtremeengineer Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    That’s a beautiful coin. Outside my budget right now as well, but that reverse in particular is very nice.

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭✭

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:
    The photos look juiced and I would be extremely cautious. Some of the neutral and negative feedback comments support my gut reaction.

    Yes it does look to good to be true
    Perhaps a problem with the coin or net graded?

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 16, 2023 5:36PM

    I don’t like the dark toning on the right side of the obverse. I don't see much luster, either. The head looks pretty full and the knee doesn’t have any wear or marks, which is good. But, overall I think I would pass.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The pictures aren’t nearly good enough to determine whether the coin deserves a higher (or lower) grade.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Images may be juiced, but a neat coin in an old holder. But already at strong money.
    If this had a CAC sticker and in a GC auction…never mind.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those images are incredibly enhanced. You would be foolish to base eye appeal bidding on those.

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    LostintranslationLostintranslation Posts: 154 ✭✭✭

    Be careful. Read the sellers feedback. Lots of negatives regarding enhanced photos...etc I would pass at that money.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bought one item from this seller returned it immediately never again.

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    ApplejacksApplejacks Posts: 384 ✭✭✭

    @Walkerlover said:
    Disclaimer, I have no ownership interest in this particular coin. Currently bid at $1400. I saw it on EBay today and it looks phenomenal for the grade, and the OGH. I would love to own it but unfortunately my funds don’t allow. Any opinions on the coin?

    Too good to be true ?

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That seller is notorious for misleading and juiced photos. It is more likely to be lousy for the grade than nice for the grade.

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why has it not been to CAC? Or has it...and denied?

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you want to sell a coin like that, you need to provide close-up photos.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 18, 2023 8:55AM

    It sold for $1668.

    PCGS retail is $1600, so the price isn’t that unrealistic.

    I just hope it looked decent in hand.

    I paid $1320 for my CAC PCGS example that I purchased less than two years ago. Price has definitely risen since then.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My immediate thought was that the photo was very much enhanced, and seeing the other replies, I maintain my opinion.

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    LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 374 ✭✭✭✭

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/186266756752?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Lhz8yBP5TwS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=7p9f4JczSC6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=SMS



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    World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    Someone got a sweet bump on that coin, looks like :smile:

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Should've went with your gut @Walkerlover, this could have been your greatest triumph.

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Liquidated Thanks so much for posting the update! :)

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2024 7:02PM

    Wow!! Those images are A LOT better!!

    Gorgeous coin!!!

    HUGE bump!!

    Fortune favors the BOLD!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2024 8:10PM

    @Walkerfan said:
    Wow!! Those images are A LOT better!!

    Gorgeous coin!!!

    HUGE bump!!

    Fortune favors the BOLD!!

    In this instance, it appears that (edited) might be the case. In many others, the BOLD are far less fortunate.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure that it is the same coin. The original pictures are not the greatest; however, the reverses do not exhibit the same toning. There appears to be no toning between the Q and the first star on the original and there is orange toning on the second coin. Also, there is light toning in the States area; whereas. the other coin has blast white. Going back to the obverse the toning is light on the first two bottom stars on the left and darker and little higher on the second coin.

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    1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not the same coin.

    Have a good day, Gary
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2024 8:08PM

    @1946Hamm said:
    Not the same coin.

    The more I look at it..I think you’re right.

    Well, it was a nice story while it lasted…

    @Walkerlover won’t feel so bad, now.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The fact that the pcgs cannot find the slab number would end it for me.
    Jim


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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely the same coin. No question.

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    LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 374 ✭✭✭✭

    Same coin.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It could be. I honestly can’t tell for sure and I’m usually pretty good at that.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the side-by-side comparison. When viewing that they appear to be different.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    The fact that the pcgs cannot find the slab number would end it for me.
    Jim

    I think that's a function of the browser you are using. I get the best results with CHROME.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 4,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is the same coin. Look at the spot under and to the right of GOD.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:

    @jesbroken said:
    The fact that the pcgs cannot find the slab number would end it for me.
    Jim

    I think that's a function of the browser you are using. I get the best results with CHROME.

    I think what Jim is saying is that the old cert number is no longer in the database

    Mike
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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The splotch above the s in trust pretty much nails it for me. Hard to have 2 splotches that much alike on different coins.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2024 9:30PM

    @jesbroken said:
    The splotch above the s in trust pretty much nails it for me. Hard to have 2 splotches that much alike on different coins.
    Jim

    @FlyingAl said:
    That is the same coin. Look at the spot under and to the right of GOD.

    Good detective work boys. These two statements have convinced me that it is the same coin, as I see the markers that you were referring to. This along with @TomB ’s opinion, which is good enough for me.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great to get the input from everyone! I defer to those who've sharper eyes than I have. The fact that the old cert number is no longer in the database is probably another tipoff that the coin was regraded.

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:
    Should've went with your gut @Walkerlover, this could have been your greatest triumph.

    I didn’t have the funds. Anyone posting on this thread could have bought it and made the score

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