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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I talked to the OP on the phone this evening, and I studied his latest photos. I'm near 100% certain that it's an authentic 1801 JR-2. Check for the fine die crack that runs from right of the word OF through the stars to the back of the eagle's neck, where there is a spine. I can't see the whole crack, but the little spine is in the right place. Check the denticles - they match up. The uneven striking is consistent with coins of the period.

    I can't figure out why our hosts questioned it, though.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting:

  • KeshequaKeshequa Posts: 108 ✭✭✭

    @rhedden said:
    I talked to the OP on the phone this evening, and I studied his latest photos. I'm near 100% certain that it's an authentic 1801 JR-2. Check for the fine die crack that runs from right of the word OF through the stars to the back of the eagle's neck, where there is a spine. I can't see the whole crack, but the little spine is in the right place. Check the denticles - they match up. The uneven striking is consistent with coins of the period.

    I can't figure out why our hosts questioned it, though.

    1. They didn’t “question” it. They said they couldn’t say for sure yes/no. And, importantly,
    2. Another reason they will render the opinion which they did is if they cannot determine definitively if it has been plugged. If a coin has sufficient damage (environmental or otherwise) so they can’t tell if there was ever a plug, they will not render an authentic verdict.

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  • @Keshequa said:

    BOOM!!!

  • @Keshequa said:

    @rhedden said:
    I talked to the OP on the phone this evening, and I studied his latest photos. I'm near 100% certain that it's an authentic 1801 JR-2. Check for the fine die crack that runs from right of the word OF through the stars to the back of the eagle's neck, where there is a spine. I can't see the whole crack, but the little spine is in the right place. Check the denticles - they match up. The uneven striking is consistent with coins of the period.

    I can't figure out why our hosts questioned it, though.

    1. They didn’t “question” it. They said they couldn’t say for sure yes/no. And, importantly,
    2. Another reason they will render the opinion which they did is if they cannot determine definitively if it has been plugged. If a coin has sufficient damage (environmental or otherwise) so they can’t tell if there was ever a plug, they will not render an authentic verdict.

    That is not an opinion, it is the lack of an opinion.

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...and it looks like PCGS has had enough. :)

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too bad, I think he had positive things to contribute. He needed to walk away sooner.

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