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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 its a bit scuffy.

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  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU details scratched

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:
    AU details scratched

    Where's the wear and a scratch or scratches that would merit a details-grade?
    Thanks.

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  • PClark99PClark99 Posts: 57 ✭✭✭

    I am thinking 58 on this one.

  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @1madman said:
    AU details scratched

    Where's the wear and a scratch or scratches that would merit a details-grade?
    Thanks.

    As far as the wear, the coin has an infinite number of nicks/dings all over both sides. Chatter is somewhat of an understatement. Liberty shouldn’t have 5 o’clock shadow where we see each hair stubble on a mint state coin.

    As far as the scratches, they are on the reverse side eagle’s wing. Possibly graffiti, but more likely 2 or 3 semi-circular scratches.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:

    @MFeld said:

    @1madman said:
    AU details scratched

    Where's the wear and a scratch or scratches that would merit a details-grade?
    Thanks.

    As far as the wear, the coin has an infinite number of nicks/dings all over both sides. Chatter is somewhat of an understatement. Liberty shouldn’t have 5 o’clock shadow where we see each hair stubble on a mint state coin.

    As far as the scratches, they are on the reverse side eagle’s wing. Possibly graffiti, but more likely 2 or 3 semi-circular scratches.

    Thank you for the reply.

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  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭

    MS63

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  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 3, 2023 11:50AM

    Deleted duplicate post.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,389 ✭✭✭✭✭

    though call- I would like to see the surfaces in hand. My concern is that the surfaces may not measure to expectations- and if not, its a 62. If the coin has the look in hand, I think 63 is appropriate

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  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭✭

    62

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Eagles wing is disconcerting. 61

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  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a textbook 62. No discernible wear. Might be a 63 if it were a common date, but get's a proper grade of 62 because it is a key date.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of chatter but a solid 63 imho, nice!

  • UpGrayeddUpGrayedd Posts: 652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61

  • Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know, lots of scuff marks but I like the strike, nice detail.

    I'll go with MS-64

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll admit, I suck at grading Peace dollars.

    I'll put my initial guess of MS60, but reading the responses tells me that's a ways off.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 63

  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭

    MS64

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Numerous scuff marks with nice luster would limit the grade to a 63 IMO.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll end the suspense on this one: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/47975206

    The submitter was thinking AU or Unc. and was not expecting a straight grade. I bought a number of branch mint better dates in the collection that did straight grade.

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Huh? I was thinking 63. Maybe some hairlines in the L obv field that don't show up due to the lighting?

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I'll end the suspense on this one: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/47975206

    The submitter was thinking AU or Unc. and was not expecting a straight grade. I bought a number of branch mint better dates in the collection that did straight grade.

    Id resubmit that one multiple times. I see no evidence of a cleaning whatsoever. Angles could tell a different story though.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I recently had a coin grade details / roller marks yet it came from a mint set. So I would agree with the details grade with all the scratches but not the cleaning part.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,527 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bummer…. I was in the 63 camp, yes lots of little marks, but luster and eye appeal helped prop it up. Did not see a Details grade coming.

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  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 3, 2023 5:44PM

    62 good day 63

    Martin

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62+

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  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not my series at all , but I was going to WAG that luster trumped bag marks and got it to 64. With info that it did not straight grade, the obverse field front of face does look a bit off.

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That nasty muted paste coloration on both sides (i.e. the cleaning) is another thing that should have dropped this to AU details, in addition to my comments above. PCGS got this one wrong, it’s not unc.

    This thing is a mess of a coin. I say don’t throw good money after bad by continuing to resubmit this dog, but to each their own. Sell it and move along (quickly).

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never would have guessed cleaned. Does it look different in hand than in the pics?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It probably had some hairlines which don't always show up in pics unless the coin in angled just right under a bright light.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 62

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2023 10:18AM

    62+, I'd be happy to own that one!
    -Just saw the reveal up there... that is an interesting result

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,558 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:
    That nasty muted paste coloration on both sides (i.e. the cleaning) is another thing that should have dropped this to AU details, in addition to my comments above. PCGS got this one wrong, it’s not unc.

    This thing is a mess of a coin. I say don’t throw good money after bad by continuing to resubmit this dog, but to each their own. Sell it and move along (quickly).

    Are we looking at the same coin?
    I see what looks like nice luster on this one which I think you are calling "paste coloration".
    A baggy coin for sure but it looks unc to me.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:

    @1madman said:
    That nasty muted paste coloration on both sides (i.e. the cleaning) is another thing that should have dropped this to AU details, in addition to my comments above. PCGS got this one wrong, it’s not unc.

    This thing is a mess of a coin. I say don’t throw good money after bad by continuing to resubmit this dog, but to each their own. Sell it and move along (quickly).

    Are we looking at the same coin?
    I see what looks like nice luster on this one which I think you are calling "paste coloration".
    A baggy coin for sure but it looks unc to me.

    I think he was talking about the paste coloration on the luster.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned? True View pictures strike again. When using (Not so) True Views the title should be "Stump the Graders" not "Guess the Grade" (of the pictures). :D

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