Yet another fake coin in a fake PCGS holder on EBay
Barberian
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The price was the first giveaway. The date on the obverse was the second. "AMFIRICA" was the third, followed by dozens of others on this obvious fake 71-CC. There's a TrueView of the real coin on the PCGS cert. page.
Please report to eBay.
https://ebay.com/itm/394762253948?hash=item5be9a9f67c:g:ocMAAOSwwFVkvIeb
3 rim nicks away from Good
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Reported.
If they posted pictures of the whole slab, it’s too bad you didn’t capture it. You now get the “orange hoodie” when you click on it now.
My example:
Included in my posted list...
Listing has been pulled, thanks for the pictures. Cheers, RickO
Are you saying that this piece is a counterfeit?
Absolutely!!!
I wanted to make sure. I am working on a possible Winter FUN program and didn't want to insult you. It looked bad to me.
You can't insult me! I just noted it is a "variety" included in my list and images of bad coins/ bad PCGS slabs since the OP didn't post the entire slab from the reported listing...
How could you tell?
The real coin exists, and has that PCGS serial number. It's a good idea to check the PCGS verification site. If the coin does not match the one in the photo, it's bogus. If the coin has been sold in a major auction, PCGS provides that information too.
Here is the counterfeit cropped out of the previous slab photos.
And here is the real one taken from the PCGS certification verification page.
This fake stuff is ruining the Hobby.................
Pete
Thanks much!!
Are there now implanted codes of verification along with the ID# on PCGS slabs?
The counterfeiting techniques must be plentiful I imagine.
Here is an overview of the 'Near Field Communication' (NFC) technology. PCGS started to include it in all their holders in late 2020.
I wonder if Ebay posting a picture of a genuine reference coin attached to a listing ( or making images of reference coins easily found) would help some people avoid the fakes?
edited for carelessness.
I don't think eBay has that much interest in customer service. They are in the business of taking bids. It took some time just to get them to take down listings of counterfeits on a regular basis when collectors informed them about the problem.
I do not know a lot about the program, but perhaps an "authenticity guarantee" for 'coins/banknotes' could help the problem.
Edited for a grammar mistake.
It's not great but counterfeits have been around for as long as there has been money. Some even collect contemporary/historical counterfeits. This is nothing new.
i dont see anything wrong with the word america it is as it should be. thanks tho
wow they look identical to me just lighting differences how can you tell its a fake?
i can now see where the eight in 1871 looks upside down compared to the others
From the color being off, stars wrong, date wrong, lettering wrong, weird wing feather pattern, and the mintmark being really phony.
It helps to have looked at lots of seated Liberty halves for hundreds of hours to spot a fake.
It also helps to look up the cert # to see if the coin matches.
The mint mark, cc, is the wrong font.
bob
Looks the the CC mint mark was styled after the small size c’s as used on the first year 1878 Carson City Morgans.
The circled "nub" is common to the counterfeits as well...
Thanks Metro!!
I should add that you're correct about "AMERICA." Must have been some pareidolia on my part.
I should also give you a better answer as to what I see. The overall look of the coin is off to me. I quickly checked the feathering on the eagle and they're in their place but somehow the look is way off, and that negative signal in my mind is strong, and after looking at SLH for many years, I trust it. Looking at it later, there's no tail feathers or full legs on the eagle.
Lapsed die? The lettering looks mmm OK, but the date is a major giveaway, and as others have pointed out, the mintmark puts this to rest. I didn't go any further than the look of the eagle and a quick glance at the mintmark (no large CC, 1881-CCs are all large CCs) to know the coin was a poorly made fake.
I'd look for some suspicious bumps on the coin in toned areas as well.