1943/42 NICKELS?

Nulte

I found these 3 nickels the other week,and was wondering if you thought they could be the 1943/42 variety. let me know what you think, thanks

bsshog40

Kind of looks like this PCGS one.

Nulte

3 out of a thousand war nickels i searched, not all were 1943 P, but .3% of the total so i guess i feel fairly lucky if they actually are the 43/42 variety to have found 3 of a nickel ive been looking for, FOR YEARS, to have three is mind boggling me/ maybe it was just that i purchased them through a bullion dealer, and they dont have the eye power or the care to look for the valuable varietys seeings how they do volume, in general? either way, im feeling good about them, but id like some feedback as to what you think,

jmlanzaf

The first one probably yes. The other 2 probably not. It is not uncommon to see a die break on the 3. You need to have the horizontal bottom of the 2. You'll also note that the diagonal line is more vertical in the bottom 2 examples, pointing to the bottom of the top loop of the 3.

BillJones

These pieces are similar to the 1942 over 1 dimes. The wrong working hub was used in one of the three blows that are required to sink the working dies.

I knew a local dealer in Massachusetts who used to have have this variety available on a regular basis in his auctions. I came away from that with the impression that this variety is not that rare in the circulated grades, but much tougher in Mint State. I don't think that the mint caught this die sinking error and that the die was used until the end of its useful life. Therefore the die was probably used for maybe 20 thousand or more coins.

Of course many of those pieces have been withdrawn from circulation. The mint purposely made these coins with the large mint mark over Monticello so that they could be more easily spotted and withdrawn from circulation after World War II.

Nulte

some good info on how they came about. i appreciate your insight on the variety. I cut my teeth on the Jefferson series, and that seems like so long ago, OVER 40 years now, and to snag not one, but 3, i am VERY happy, especially being from the west coast, where the circulation of the Philadelphia minted coins was dismal at best , and look like this by the time they come around, lol!

Nulte

Nulte

i think i posted a pic of the same coin twice heres another

Nulte

die cracks by the bust on the first 2 pics appears to be there, not as defined, but there under magnification as the ms67 picture as well

Nulte

and i know there are fakes out there, but why fake a circulated coin, the fakes are going to be MS i would think.

Nulte

Thanks all who repled, im still going to say im happy, the buck or so i paid for them in one my $50 roll of nickels that i had put away years ago had realized an increase in value. Im pretty sure i have the double eye variety as well, i will take pictures if i round it up 9still have 600+ war nickels)

BuffaloIronTail

They all look like the overdate to me.

Pete

PerryHall

@BuffaloIronTail said:
They all look like the overdate to me.

Pete

I agree. Nice pick-ups.

Aspie_Rocco

I will say NONE are actually a real 43/2
The first photo you posted is very close but need full pics.

First we need a full image of both sides. There are other characteristics including mint mark placement and other doubling.

As mentioned by jmflanz there is a common die break that make for a false 43/2.
The flat area HAS to be there (red in my photo) also look at the angle the 2 makes towards the center point of the 3 (yellow in my photo)
Compare your chip angle and where it points to this photo

Your first picture is the only one possibly, and I am still skeptical. The star looks right on it, the other two have different star shapes

CaptHenway

I think that they all are, though the pictures could be better.

Nulte

yeah, that was my first attempt with the camera, sorry about the quality, . thank you for all the opinions, , i THOUGHT i had found two, until i went to take the pictures and i actually had 3!

Aspie_Rocco

From page 59 of the late Richard Bousquet’s Jefferson nickels die varieties and minting errors

PerryHall

They appear to be the 43/2 overdates. I don't think they would be worth the expense of sending them to one of the top three grading services but they may be worth sending to ANACS or ICG to at least get them authenticated.

Nulte

CaptHenway

Much better pictures. Yes those are the overdate.

I remember when Del Romines brought his first two discovery pieces into my office at Collectors Clearinghouse somewhere around 1976-1978. They were even slightly lower grade than these, but I thought that they were probably overdates and ran pictures of them in Coin World asking if anybody had a higher grade specimen. A fellow officer in the Shelby County Coin Club, Bern Nagengast, saw my article and immediately cherrypicked a BU at a coin show in Dayton, and that confirmed it.

Nulte

ill take the for the $4.50 total for all three. well, i got three kids, so i think i can leave them each something nice that i found in my collection, which include the #3 everyman eisenhower and #10 in the lowball eisenhower dollar registry sets., and current #23 in the 1968-98 proof coins catagory. thank all for being patient and not as harsh as some other boards i dont even post on anymore, people that are nasty really dont have a place in my world , and i appreciate everything all have had to say so far,

oih82w8

The OP Nickles look like it to me too.

cladking

I searched thousands and thousands of war nickels and found 3 overdates.

Wow!

SanctionII

Here is an MS example of this coin that I acquired raw many years ago.

Last year I had it graded and was very surprised that it came back graded MS66FS DDO FS-101.

The Trueview photo shows the coin with too much lighting. In hand the coin's appearance is much more eye appealing than it looks in the photo.

ricko

OK, another task added to the rainy/snowy day list.... Search war nickels for overdate 3/2. Cheers, RickO