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Are these any danger to causing PVC damage to coins?

TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

I am planning on buying ungraded coins from time to time and sending them to PCGS or NGC for grading. I was wondering are these type of cardboard holders are any danger for coins? I believe they are made of mylar but I am no expert on plastic types.

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  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These should not harm your coins. With that being said, the TPG's require you to submit your coins in flips, not these.

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My understanding is the soft plastic that can cause PVC damage to coins.

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  • FrankHFrankH Posts: 982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2023 11:47AM

    @pmh1nic said:
    My understanding is the soft plastic that can cause PVC damage to coins.

    Most are Mylar that is inert.

    Is Mylar inert?
    Archival polyester (PET) is also known by the brand names Melinex and Mylar. It is chemically inert with a high tensile strength and chemical and dimensional stability. It is extremely clear and will never yellow or become cloudy, making it ideal for encapsulation where a detailed view of the covered item is desired.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2023 12:35PM

    I prefer Saflips. These are good for submitting coins and also for storage. For special raw coins I heat seal the Saflips with an impulse sealer.
    These are Saflips

    This is what I seal them with

    Mr_Spud

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So any danger for PVC damage?

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The cardboard 2x2s shouldn’t contain any PVC

    Mr_Spud

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Relaxn said:
    Staples... Flatten your staples

    ???

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,816 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2023 12:43PM

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I prefer Saflips. These are good for submitting coins and also for storage. For special raw coins I heat seal the Saflips with an impulse sealer.
    These are Saflips

    This is what I seal them with

    Will buy some of these as well.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suggest that you flatten the staples in any fold over and staple 2"X2" cardboard holder by carefully crimping them with a pair of pliers. I was at a coin show where a dealer had a box that was crammed full of these holders. I asked to see one of his gold eagles. The one he showed me had the window of the holder torn and there was a very heavy vertical scrape across the face of his coin from the staple of an adjoining staple holder. This happened about 30 years ago and I still remember to this day.
    Another suggestion is to wipe the inside of the holder with a clean cotton cloth to remove the cardboard dust from the manufacturing process because the cardboard dust can cause spotting especially on copper proof coins. Another option is to use compressed air to blow off the carboard dust.

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  • tyler267tyler267 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    @Relaxn said:
    Staples... Flatten your staples

    ???

    Just take a pair of plyers and flatten the back of the staples. If you don't the small loop the metal staple creates can scratch the coin behind it when you pull it out of a box. Unfortunately there are way too many staple scratches on otherwise beautiful coins.

  • flyguyflflyguyfl Posts: 127 ✭✭

    I submit coins in flips inside a bubble wrap envelope from Walmart. Looks like good protection and minimal mailing cost.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2023 5:35AM

    They (2x2 holders) are ok for inexpensive collector raw coins I put in album for shows. Or junk box. Helps pay expenses. Over time just about any coin can develop tarnish due to reaction with atmosphere and need a dip. Darkly tarnished coins no use for - will get worse over time. Plus a crummy investment.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tyler267 said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    @Relaxn said:
    Staples... Flatten your staples

    ???

    Just take a pair of plyers and flatten the back of the staples. If you don't the small loop the metal staple creates can scratch the coin behind it when you pull it out of a box. Unfortunately there are way too many staple scratches on otherwise beautiful coins.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,813 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2023 1:55PM

    The traditional cardboard 2x2s are actually an excellent storage method for coins, with two caveats, as others have mentioned.

    First, wipe the inside of the Mylar windows to remove any cardboard dust that might cause spotting.

    Second, after you have stapled the holders shut, crimp the rounded legs of the staples so they are even with the surface of the cardboard.

    And stay away from self-sealing 2x2s as the adhesive may be another contaminant.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I prefer the flips (PVC free) to 2x2's....Though in the late nineties I did store a lot of coins in 2x2's. Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Use a stapler that flattens the staples. Much easier than using pliers to squish them. $10

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