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Do either of these nickels warrant a Cameo designation?

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

Picked them up recently and took better photos of them today.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII ... Based strictly on the pictures, I think neither reverse would garner the CAM... The obverses, perhaps.... Cheers, RickO

  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 13, 2023 10:47AM

    I just don’t see enough contrast and frostiness, though the photos may not show it.

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  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 13, 2023 10:58AM

    I'll respectively part company with ricko and owner' on this
    and say yes. There's good mirror to the coins and I suggest there's
    frost on the head and shoulders and buildings on the reverse. Just MHO though.

    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think they both miss.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think no cam from those pics.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photos do not show cam for me.
    Jim


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  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lighting is tricky with proof and contrast. Ie jeffproofs. I think the second one has a chance. The rev on the first one is missing a lot of frost on the right side

    Nice coins
    Martin

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Frosty but not frosty enough for a designation IMHO (especially the reverses)

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those who replied to this thread have grading standards as strict, or even stricter. than PCGS when it comes to giving out a Cameo designation. :)

    After PCGS grades these two nickels I will post the results and Trueviews to this thread.

  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII i hope you get them and looking forward to my cam grading skills😀. If you think they have a good shot that’s says a bunch for the coins. You do have the advantage of them in hand, over us keyboard warriors

    Good luck
    Martin

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Martin.

    My cell phone photos are of low quality. IMO both coins warrant the designation.

    However my experience with PCGS is that coins I think should Cameo often are not and coins I think are not Cameo sometimes are.

    If I do not play the grading game I will never win.

  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2023 7:57AM

    @SanctionII said:
    Martin.

    My cell phone photos are of low quality. IMO both coins warrant the designation.

    However my experience with PCGS is that coins I think should Cameo often are not and coins I think are not Cameo sometimes are.

    If I do not play the grading game I will never win.

    I think there's distinction here to be made between CAM and DCAM, and it's the latter
    where expectations seem to lie. I think you can get the CAM designation
    for mirror and the smattering of frost on both sides but clearly not a DCAM though.
    Again, respectiing the view of others here, this is just mho.

    Looking forward to the hearing your results from PCGS.

    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • RelaxnRelaxn Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please include me in your giveaway!

    Would be more than happy to receive the 53!

    Lol

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Last year I sent in these two proof nickels (1953 and 1957). Both of them have fully frosted devices and deep mirrored fields. Both also have toning. Neither coin received a Cameo designation (even though when you see them under good lighting the contrast between the frosted devices and mirrored fields jumps out at you).

    PF68

    PF67

    The 1953 and 1957 proof nickels posted in this thread are untoned. Even if they do not receive a Cameo designation they will look good next to their toned counterparts.

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