I like the die polish- not sure how to handicap this one in terms of the grade. The obverse should carry the coin. 66 to 66+ seems reasonable from the images. In hand it might go higher but really should in my view not go lower than 66
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Some small detractors within the focal point on the obverse. Nit-picking really. A fantastic coin with lots of luster. I am at an MS 67 but a 68 is not out of the question.
Wow, I have never seen a modern Washington Quarter that I would have liked to own until today. This one being the first and I truly would feel it to grade a 68. Never offered that high of a grade before as a guess. Beautiful. Love the fantastic die polish. Thanks for sharing.
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Am I wrong to even say that the coin below is better? It also have die chip and cracks on Obverse and Reverse. Also, it looks like it has a “black eye” 😂!
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Am I wrong to even say that the coin below is better? It also have die chip and cracks on Obverse and Reverse. Also, it looks like it has a “black eye” 😂!
Now, that I'm looking at a full size monitor and not a cell phone I'm seeing some of the hits lurking in the shadows.
Still I think the eye appeal will win and a 67 lowest but, lately it seems the grading has tightened. Odd how that happened about the same time as the new CACD roll out.
Best of luck.
Biased soley on your photos the first coin looks like MS65, the second coin looks MS66 or maybe 66+. If I had the room on a submission I might send the second coin, I understand the temptation on the first but think that is a losing bet.
Most are raving about the die polish, but I find it distracting. That aside, I would think the first coin would bring MS66-MS67. Second coin has better strike and die polished reverse instead of obverse.
@coinbuf said:
Biased soley on your photos the first coin looks like MS65, the second coin looks MS66 or maybe 66+. If I had the room on a submission I might send the second coin, I understand the temptation on the first but think that is a losing bet.
I don't think there are limits on submissions and would find room seeing that even a MS65 covers cost.
@coinbuf said:
Biased soley on your photos the first coin looks like MS65, the second coin looks MS66 or maybe 66+. If I had the room on a submission I might send the second coin, I understand the temptation on the first but think that is a losing bet.
I don't think there are limits on submissions and would find room seeing that even a MS65 covers cost.
No you are correct that there are no limits on submissions, however, that was not my point. What I'm saying is that I would not submit either of these coins as a single line submission, you would want to submit with other coins to cost average the overhead fees.
Where are you seeing demand for MS65 bicentennial Washington quarters? Ebay? I have no reason to buy this coin at that grade and have done no research or looking, but I really cannot imagine that there are droves of people looking for this date in a grade of MS65.
@coinbuf said:
Biased soley on your photos the first coin looks like MS65, the second coin looks MS66 or maybe 66+. If I had the room on a submission I might send the second coin, I understand the temptation on the first but think that is a losing bet.
I don't think there are limits on submissions and would find room seeing that even a MS65 covers cost.
No you are correct that there are no limits on submissions, however, that was not my point. What I'm saying is that I would not submit either of these coins as a single line submission, you would want to submit with other coins to cost average the overhead fees.
Where are you seeing demand for MS65 bicentennial Washington quarters? Ebay? I have no reason to buy this coin at that grade and have done no research or looking, but I really cannot imagine that there are droves of people looking for this date in a grade of MS65.
I never said anything about demand I just use the price guide as a guide in decision making. For me this is purely a hobby and not a business but I do run a successful business and I love me some capitalism.
I was using MS65 as a worst-case scenario to recoup grading fees and you and I both know neither one of those coins are only 65. It’s a possibility though the reward outweighs the risk.
@coinbuf said:
Biased soley on your photos the first coin looks like MS65, the second coin looks MS66 or maybe 66+. If I had the room on a submission I might send the second coin, I understand the temptation on the first but think that is a losing bet.
I don't think there are limits on submissions and would find room seeing that even a MS65 covers cost.
No you are correct that there are no limits on submissions, however, that was not my point. What I'm saying is that I would not submit either of these coins as a single line submission, you would want to submit with other coins to cost average the overhead fees.
Where are you seeing demand for MS65 bicentennial Washington quarters? Ebay? I have no reason to buy this coin at that grade and have done no research or looking, but I really cannot imagine that there are droves of people looking for this date in a grade of MS65.
I never said anything about demand I just use the price guide as a guide in decision making. For me this is purely a hobby and not a business but I do run a successful business and I love me some capitalism.
I was using MS65 as a worst-case scenario to recoup grading fees and you and I both know neither one of those coins are only 65. It’s a possibility though the reward outweighs the risk.
Whenever a discussion involves a question of "is it worth slabbing" demand is an automatic part of the discussion, without demand there can be no sale and the value is zero. And no I do not know both of the coins in this thread are at least MS65, from the photos I think the one is MS65 at best and could grade lower.
Guide values are often irrelevant, so I checked recent closed ebay sales and unless the coin is rainbow toned or a variety most of the completed sales for MS65's of this date were barely break even (a few could have been losers depending on submission and selling fees). Biased on that data I would say that my assertion is correct and these two coins would only be a good gamble it if the submitter has very favorable submission (access to bulk submissions) and selling (have an ebay store) fee structures; or if he gets lucky and both grade MS66 or better.
I have owned and operated my own business since 1996, you don't do that by taking risks with a low chance of success. Submitting coins that have a best case of breaking even is a win for the TPG, but when you consider the time value of your funds spent on submitting you are likely losing money.
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I love it!
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No idea, never studied the quarters but I like the die polish. Very nice pictures!
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MS68?
That's a strong coin with great die polish on the obverse.
Excellent pictures too!
No clue how to grade these well, but I think it's up there.
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I like the die polish- not sure how to handicap this one in terms of the grade. The obverse should carry the coin. 66 to 66+ seems reasonable from the images. In hand it might go higher but really should in my view not go lower than 66
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Some small detractors within the focal point on the obverse. Nit-picking really. A fantastic coin with lots of luster. I am at an MS 67 but a 68 is not out of the question.
67, the weakness in Washington's hair and on the front edge of the drum hold it back from 68 IMO.
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Very nice coin.
Wow, I have never seen a modern Washington Quarter that I would have liked to own until today. This one being the first and I truly would feel it to grade a 68. Never offered that high of a grade before as a guess. Beautiful. Love the fantastic die polish. Thanks for sharing.
Jim
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66
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Beautiful coin!
Have no idea how these grade.
Just a SWAG at 66 but wouldn’t be a bit surprised if it went 67-68.
I think a 67 is certainly possible.
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Thank you all for the guesses and comments!
Am I wrong to even say that the coin below is better? It also have die chip and cracks on Obverse and Reverse. Also, it looks like it has a “black eye” 😂!
Very nice and 67+ on both.
Here is my 66+ Inferior to both of yours.
If your two, I think I like the first one better. Don’t know which one grades higher. I would guess the first one, though
The first looks like a 66... actually both look like 66's.... Great pictures. Cheers, RickO
This one has a better strike than the first one
Now, that I'm looking at a full size monitor and not a cell phone I'm seeing some of the hits lurking in the shadows.
Still I think the eye appeal will win and a 67 lowest but, lately it seems the grading has tightened. Odd how that happened about the same time as the new CACD roll out.
Best of luck.
Are these 2 coins worth submitting?
Looking at some graded coins.
67+
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68
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Biased soley on your photos the first coin looks like MS65, the second coin looks MS66 or maybe 66+. If I had the room on a submission I might send the second coin, I understand the temptation on the first but think that is a losing bet.
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Most are raving about the die polish, but I find it distracting. That aside, I would think the first coin would bring MS66-MS67. Second coin has better strike and die polished reverse instead of obverse.
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I don't think there are limits on submissions and would find room seeing that even a MS65 covers cost.
No you are correct that there are no limits on submissions, however, that was not my point. What I'm saying is that I would not submit either of these coins as a single line submission, you would want to submit with other coins to cost average the overhead fees.
Where are you seeing demand for MS65 bicentennial Washington quarters? Ebay? I have no reason to buy this coin at that grade and have done no research or looking, but I really cannot imagine that there are droves of people looking for this date in a grade of MS65.
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Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I never said anything about demand I just use the price guide as a guide in decision making. For me this is purely a hobby and not a business but I do run a successful business and I love me some capitalism.
I was using MS65 as a worst-case scenario to recoup grading fees and you and I both know neither one of those coins are only 65. It’s a possibility though the reward outweighs the risk.
Whenever a discussion involves a question of "is it worth slabbing" demand is an automatic part of the discussion, without demand there can be no sale and the value is zero. And no I do not know both of the coins in this thread are at least MS65, from the photos I think the one is MS65 at best and could grade lower.
Guide values are often irrelevant, so I checked recent closed ebay sales and unless the coin is rainbow toned or a variety most of the completed sales for MS65's of this date were barely break even (a few could have been losers depending on submission and selling fees). Biased on that data I would say that my assertion is correct and these two coins would only be a good gamble it if the submitter has very favorable submission (access to bulk submissions) and selling (have an ebay store) fee structures; or if he gets lucky and both grade MS66 or better.
I have owned and operated my own business since 1996, you don't do that by taking risks with a low chance of success. Submitting coins that have a best case of breaking even is a win for the TPG, but when you consider the time value of your funds spent on submitting you are likely losing money.
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Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Guessing 67